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From: Daniel J Walsh <dwalsh@redhat.com>
To: Joshua Brindle <jbrindle@tresys.com>
Cc: selinux@tycho.nsa.gov
Subject: Re: Alternative user management approach
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 16:02:50 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <42BDB86A.5050502@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <42BD7A43.909@tresys.com>

Joshua Brindle wrote:

> Daniel J Walsh wrote:
>
>> Ok this all sounds good, but how do we come to a consensus.
>> Do we need an "role attribute" to define "user" roles.
>>
>> roleattribute staff_r user;
>> roleattribute user_r user;
>> roleattribute sysadm_r user;
>>
>> Then do we need a mechanism in policy to associate roles with "user" 
>> roles?
>
>
> no language changes are necessary
>
>> How does all this work with MLS ranges?
>>
>> Should we have a brainstorming session?  It is important to us (Red 
>> Hat) that we get this settled soon.
>>
>> Do we have a new file which associates uids to user roles?
>>
> yes, from the policy language and kernel perspectives there need not 
> be any changes, basically instead of creating specific users:
>
> user jbrindle { staff_r sysadm_r }
>
> you create generic users:
>
> user admin { staff_r sysadm_r }
> user user_u { user_r }
>
> and then associate linux logins (or groups!) with those generic users: 
> (libselinux will read this file instead of using the implicit login 
> name -> selinux name mapping)
>
> group:wheel   admin
> default            user_u
>
> MLS would work the same way, the only difference being that you may 
> need more generic users to sufficiently cover all the role + level 
> combinations you need.
>
> To make this backend independant the same mapping info could be 
> sitting in ldap or some other database.
>
> The biggest challenge after this is labeling, how to label home 
> directories (Probably should only be done at useradd time, or when you 
> log into a computer the first time with LDAP, the utilities will have 
> to be a bit smarter about labeling)
>
> Joshua Brindle
>
Ok what does a third party vendor then do.  Say they create a role of 
nurse_r, doctor_r, labtech_r?

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-06-25 20:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-06-24 16:02 Alternative user management approach Karl MacMillan
2005-06-24 16:38 ` Casey Schaufler
2005-06-24 17:04   ` Karl MacMillan
2005-06-24 17:25     ` Casey Schaufler
2005-06-24 17:30       ` Karl MacMillan
2005-06-24 19:34     ` Stephen Smalley
2005-06-24 18:09 ` Brian T. Sniffen
2005-06-24 18:21   ` Stephen Smalley
2005-06-24 19:50     ` James Morris
2005-06-24 19:58       ` Stephen Smalley
2005-06-24 23:23         ` James Morris
2005-06-26 16:13       ` Russell Coker
2005-06-24 18:32   ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-06-24 18:41     ` Karl MacMillan
2005-06-24 22:11       ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-06-24 22:52         ` Casey Schaufler
2005-06-25 10:28           ` Daniel J Walsh
2005-06-25 15:37             ` Joshua Brindle
2005-06-25 16:34               ` Casey Schaufler
2005-06-25 19:37               ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-06-25 19:49                 ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-06-26 16:38                 ` Russell Coker
2005-06-26 20:17                   ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-06-25 20:02               ` Daniel J Walsh [this message]
2005-06-27 14:59                 ` Joshua Brindle
2005-06-26 16:36             ` Russell Coker
2005-06-26 17:46               ` Casey Schaufler
2005-06-27  2:24                 ` Russell Coker
2005-06-27  2:43                   ` Casey Schaufler
2005-06-27  3:43                     ` Russell Coker
2005-06-27 15:32                       ` Casey Schaufler
2005-06-27 22:32                         ` Russell Coker
2005-06-28 12:44                           ` Frank Mayer
2005-06-28 15:24                             ` Casey Schaufler
2005-06-26 16:11       ` Russell Coker
2005-06-24 18:10 ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-06-24 18:29   ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-06-24 18:36     ` Karl MacMillan
2005-06-24 18:52       ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-06-24 19:23         ` Stephen Smalley
2005-06-24 19:01       ` Stephen Smalley
2005-06-24 19:21         ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-06-24 19:40           ` Stephen Smalley
2005-06-24 18:19 ` Stephen Smalley
2005-06-24 18:38   ` Karl MacMillan
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2005-06-28 14:43 Chad Hanson

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