From: Alejandro Bonilla <abonilla@linuxwireless.org>
To: Vojtech Pavlik <vojtech@suse.cz>
Cc: Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>,
Paul Sladen <thinkpad@paul.sladen.org>,
linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org,
borislav@users.sourceforge.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
hdaps-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, mlord@pobox.com
Subject: Re: [ltp] IBM HDAPS Someone interested? (Accelerometer)
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 17:41:00 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <42BDDD7C.7090402@linuxwireless.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050625200953.GA1591@ucw.cz>
Vojtech Pavlik wrote:
>On Sat, Jun 25, 2005 at 01:13:17PM -0500, Alejandro Bonilla wrote:
>
>
>
>>I have a question here, how do you guys think that the head is parked,
>>is it done by the controller directly, which then sends the command to
>>the HD to park the head, or this is done by the operating system in some
>>kind of way?
>>
>>I think the OS or user space is too slow like to react to send a park
>>command to the hard drive, so this most be done directly by the embedded
>>controller, but still I think it needs some input from the OS, to
>>initialize it's settings.
>>
>>
>
>The only way to park a drive is to send a command to it through the IDE
>interface. This can't be done by the controller itself, since the
>controller in the ThinkPad is a classic Intel ICH chip which only passes
>commands around.
>
>The OS is definitely fast enough for this kind of task, it's doable even
>in userspace, although not easy.
>
>
>
>>i.e. after all, in windows you do have the settings in the software
>>for HDAPS, but it looks like it is _not_ managed by the operating
>>system at all if there is some type of action to be taken. This is
>>also probably why HDAPS won't kick in until booted, and that is
>>because it needs to load its config setup by the software.
>>
>>
>
>
>
>>This is what I think, please correct me if I'm saying something crazy.
>>
>>
>
>It is definitely all done by the windows kernel driver.
>
>
>
OK, So if this is done by the user space then I think we can play more
with it? I guess that we could do a type of hdparm -F or hdparm -S to
spin down the drive or maybe there is a way to add feature to hdparm to
park the drive itself.
Aside from what we should do when we get the data... How can we/us/I
start checking and see if we can find any response from the embedded
controller?
Do we have to backengineer everything, can we get anything of this from
IBM-ACPI, or our only way to go here is see if IBM will do anything?
Thanks for all the answers. I really don't want to drop the topic, so
that we can figure this one out.
.Alejandro
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-06-25 23:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <42B6F6F6.2040704@zipman.it>
2005-06-20 17:28 ` [ltp] Re: IBM HDAPS Someone interested? Alejandro Bonilla
2005-06-20 19:51 ` Yani Ioannou
2005-06-20 20:11 ` Yani Ioannou
2005-06-20 20:25 ` Alejandro Bonilla
2005-06-20 20:34 ` Yani Ioannou
2005-06-20 20:48 ` Alejandro Bonilla
2005-06-20 21:35 ` Lee Revell
2005-06-20 21:57 ` Alejandro Bonilla
2005-06-20 23:35 ` Lee Revell
2005-06-22 10:49 ` Pavel Machek
2005-06-22 12:50 ` Alejandro Bonilla
2005-06-23 7:13 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2005-06-23 10:06 ` Eric Piel
2005-06-23 12:53 ` Alejandro Bonilla
2005-06-23 13:18 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2005-06-23 20:22 ` Eric Piel
2005-06-23 20:42 ` Lee Revell
2005-06-25 6:17 ` [ltp] IBM HDAPS Someone interested? (Accelerometer) Paul Sladen
2005-06-25 11:31 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2005-06-25 14:47 ` Pavel Machek
2005-06-25 15:00 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2005-06-25 18:14 ` Alejandro Bonilla
2005-06-25 20:14 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2005-06-27 12:33 ` Lenz Grimmer
2005-06-27 13:10 ` Alejandro Bonilla
2005-06-27 21:02 ` Lee Revell
2005-06-28 3:22 ` Alejandro Bonilla
2005-06-28 5:40 ` Lee Revell
2005-06-28 15:40 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2005-06-25 18:13 ` Alejandro Bonilla
2005-06-25 20:09 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2005-06-25 22:41 ` Alejandro Bonilla [this message]
2005-06-27 3:35 ` [Hdaps-devel] " Shawn Starr
2005-07-03 8:37 ` Alejandro Bonilla
2005-07-03 10:16 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2005-07-03 11:07 ` Jesper Juhl
2005-07-03 18:17 ` Jesper Juhl
2005-07-03 19:21 ` [Hdaps-devel] " Dave Hansen
2005-07-03 18:29 ` Alejandro Bonilla
2005-07-03 19:37 ` Dave Hansen
2005-07-03 19:42 ` Jesper Juhl
2005-07-03 18:52 ` Alejandro Bonilla
2005-07-03 19:42 ` Henrik Brix Andersen
2005-07-03 20:03 ` Jesper Juhl
2005-07-03 20:53 ` Tomasz Torcz
2005-07-03 19:41 ` Dave Hansen
2005-07-11 9:42 ` [ltp] IBM HDAPS Someone interested? (Userspace accelerometer viewer) Paul Sladen
2005-07-11 14:26 ` Alan Cox
2005-07-11 16:53 ` [Hdaps-devel] " Dave Hansen
2005-07-11 17:31 ` Paul RIVIER
2005-07-11 20:09 ` [Hdaps-devel] " Daniel Willmann
2005-07-12 15:55 ` Dave Hansen
2005-07-11 15:13 ` Pavel Machek
2005-07-12 9:41 ` Matthew Garrett
2005-07-11 16:21 ` [Hdaps-devel] " Dave Hansen
2005-07-13 16:27 ` Alejandro Bonilla
2005-06-25 17:42 ` [ltp] IBM HDAPS Someone interested? (Accelerometer) Alejandro Bonilla
2005-06-27 10:36 ` P
2005-06-23 15:33 ` [ltp] Re: IBM HDAPS Someone interested? Jan Knutar
2005-06-23 17:08 ` Lee Revell
2005-06-23 20:47 ` Andrew Haninger
2005-06-24 9:16 ` P
2005-06-24 12:56 ` Alejandro Bonilla
2005-06-24 17:20 ` Alejandro Bonilla
2005-06-20 20:53 ` Vojtech Pavlik
[not found] ` <005b01c575bd_724fac60_600cc60a@amer.sykes.com>
2005-06-20 20:25 ` Pavel Machek
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