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From: Oliver Gerlich <olig9@gmx.de>
To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Connecting vde and LAN
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 19:48:59 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <42D15F8B.8050008@gmx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0507101834520.9759@filer.marasystems.com>

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Henrik Nordstrom schrieb:
> On Sun, 10 Jul 2005, Oliver Gerlich wrote:
> 
>> what is the best solution to connect the vde "switch" to my real LAN so
>> that Qemu guests get IPs from my LAN-wide DHCP server?
> 
> 
> bridgeing of your ethernet interface and the TAP interface connecting to
> vde is undoubtly the best if you want to provide full access to the LAN.
> 
>> So far I've experimented with bridging tap0 and eth0 so that the Qemu
>> guests are transparently on my LAN and get IPs from the LAN-wide DHCP
>> server. But this has the drawback that my host network interface is now
>> br0 instead of eth0 (that causes confusion at least for samba).
> 
> 
> Fix the Samba problem?
> 
> Why does this cause problems for Samba? I run my qemu stations like this
> all the time, but not using Samba..

The "problem" is that I start vde_switch and the bridging not at boot,
but when I want to run Qemu. So then I have to restart Samba to bind to
to br0 instead of eth0. Not so much of a problem though... Only I don't
know what other services already rely on eth0 as my network interface :)

Could you explain how you integrated vde_switch and bridging with your
current system? Do you start everything at boot and accept that this
changes the system-wide network configuration, or do you use some
bridging trick to avoid this?

> 
>> Also I tried to set up IP forwarding between tap0 and eth0, but then the
>> Qemu guests aren't transparently on my LAN (and don't get the correct
>> config from the DHCP server).
> 
> 
> Correct.
> 
> DHCP is Ethernet broadcast based, not IP.
> 
> You could in theory run a DHCP proxy agent on your tap0 interface, and
> have the DHCP server configured with a suitable scope. But this does not
> give you addresses from your LAN.
> 
> You could also run a local DHCP server on tap0, configured with the
> address scope you have set up proxy-arp for. But these addresses better
> be statically assigned to you, never handed out by the LAN DHCP server
> to anyone else in the LAN. But this doesn't provide true LAN access,
> only routed acces to the LAN (no broadcasts).

So it looks indeed that vde and bridging is the way to go.
Thanks for your explanations :)

> 
> Regards
> Henrik
> 
> 
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> 

Greetings,
Oliver
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-07-10 17:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-07-10 12:27 [Qemu-devel] Connecting vde and LAN Oliver Gerlich
2005-07-10 16:42 ` Henrik Nordstrom
2005-07-10 17:37   ` Jim C. Brown
2005-07-10 18:23     ` Oliver Gerlich
2005-07-10 18:58       ` Jim C. Brown
2005-07-11  2:21     ` Henrik Nordstrom
2005-07-11  2:33       ` Jim C. Brown
2005-07-11  7:50         ` Henrik Nordstrom
2005-07-11 15:02           ` Jim C. Brown
2005-07-11 23:01             ` Jim C. Brown
2005-07-12  2:49               ` Henrik Nordstrom
2005-07-12 22:25                 ` Jim C. Brown
2005-08-04 10:14                   ` Henrik Nordstrom
2005-08-05 16:54                     ` Jim C. Brown
2005-08-10 19:07                     ` Jim C. Brown
2005-08-11 14:56                       ` Henrik Nordstrom
2005-08-11 16:24                         ` Oliver Gerlich
2005-08-11 16:56                           ` Jim C. Brown
2005-08-12 10:02                             ` Henrik Nordstrom
2005-08-12 18:07                               ` Jim C. Brown
2005-08-11 17:00                           ` Paul Brook
2005-08-12  0:11                             ` Herbert Poetzl
2005-08-12  9:53                           ` Henrik Nordstrom
2005-07-10 17:48   ` Oliver Gerlich [this message]
2005-07-11  1:36     ` Henrik Nordstrom
2005-07-12 19:43     ` Ross Kendall Axe
2005-07-12 20:31       ` Oliver Gerlich
2005-07-13  3:02         ` Ross Kendall Axe
2005-07-10 18:27   ` Bakul Shah

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