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From: "K.R. Foley" <kr@cybsft.com>
To: Esben Nielsen <simlo@phys.au.dk>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] Make MAX_RT_PRIO and MAX_USER_RT_PRIO configurable
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 11:09:08 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <42E7B1A4.2070900@cybsft.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.OSF.4.05.10507271645210.24769-100000@da410.phys.au.dk>

Esben Nielsen wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Jul 2005, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> 
> 
>>* Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Perfectly understood.  I've had two customers ask me to increase the 
>>>priorities for them, but those where custom kernels, and a config 
>>>option wasn't necessary. But since I've had customers asking, I 
>>>thought that this might be something that others want.  But I deal 
>>>with a niche market, and what my customers want might not be what 
>>>everyone wants. (hence the RFC in the subject).
>>>
>>>So if there are others out there that would prefer to change their 
>>>priority ranges, speak now otherwise this patch will go by the waste 
>>>side.
>>
>>i'm not excluding that this will become necessary in the future. We 
>>should also add the safety check to sched.h - all i'm suggesting is to 
>>not make it a .config option just now, because that tends to be fiddled 
>>with.
>>
> 
> Isn't there a way to mark it "warning! warning! dangerous!" ?
> 
> Anyway: I think 100 RT priorities is way overkill - and slowing things
> down by making the scheduler checking more empty slots in the runqueue.
> Default ought to be 10. In practise it will be very hard to have
> a task at the lower RT priority behaving real-time with 99 higher
> priority tasks around. I find it hard to believe that somebody has an RT
> app needing more than 10 priorities and can't do with RR or FIFO
> scheduling within a fewer number of prorities.
> 
> Esben
> 

Actually, is it really that slow to search a bitmap for a slot that 
needs processing? I work on real-time test stands which are less of an 
embedded system and more of a real Unix system that require determinism. 
It is very nice in some cases to have more than 10 RT priorities to work 
with.

-- 
    kr

  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-07-27 16:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-07-27 14:13 [RFC][PATCH] Make MAX_RT_PRIO and MAX_USER_RT_PRIO configurable Steven Rostedt
2005-07-27 14:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-27 14:26   ` Steven Rostedt
2005-07-27 14:33     ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-27 14:47       ` [PATCH] safty check of MAX_RT_PRIO >= MAX_USER_RT_PRIO Steven Rostedt
2005-07-27 15:05         ` Steven Rostedt
2005-07-27 18:52         ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-27 14:53       ` [RFC][PATCH] Make MAX_RT_PRIO and MAX_USER_RT_PRIO configurable Esben Nielsen
2005-07-27 15:02         ` Steven Rostedt
2005-07-27 16:09         ` K.R. Foley [this message]
2005-07-27 17:01           ` Esben Nielsen
2005-07-27 17:25             ` Steven Rostedt
2005-07-27 21:32               ` Esben Nielsen
2005-07-28 12:17                 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-07-28  7:22               ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-28 11:53                 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-07-27 17:42             ` K.R. Foley
2005-07-28  9:59               ` Esben Nielsen
2005-07-27 14:28   ` Steven Rostedt
2005-07-27 14:38     ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-27 14:46       ` Steven Rostedt
2005-07-28  7:33         ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-28  1:42   ` Matt Mackall
2005-07-28  1:00 ` Daniel Walker
2005-07-28  1:20   ` Lee Revell
2005-07-28  1:26     ` Steven Rostedt
2005-07-28  1:25   ` Steven Rostedt
2005-07-28  3:06     ` Steven Rostedt
2005-07-28  3:32       ` Steven Rostedt
2005-07-28  3:45         ` Steven Rostedt
2005-07-28  3:51           ` Nick Piggin
2005-07-28 11:43             ` [PATCH] speed up on find_first_bit for i386 (let compiler do the work) Steven Rostedt
2005-07-28 12:45               ` Steven Rostedt
2005-07-28 15:31                 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-07-28 15:30               ` Linus Torvalds
2005-07-28 15:47                 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-07-28 16:34                   ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2005-07-28 16:57                     ` Steven Rostedt
2005-07-28 17:25                       ` Linus Torvalds
2005-07-29 10:03                         ` David Woodhouse
2005-07-29 14:41                           ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2005-07-29 16:23                           ` Linus Torvalds
2005-07-29 14:39                         ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2005-07-29 16:29                           ` Linus Torvalds
2005-07-29 17:14                             ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2005-07-28 17:17                     ` Linus Torvalds
2005-07-29 15:09                       ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2005-07-28 18:25                     ` Steven Rostedt
2005-07-28 18:56                       ` Linus Torvalds
2005-07-28 17:52               ` Mitchell Blank Jr

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