From: "\"Martin v. Löwis\"" <martin@v.loewis.de>
To: Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com>
Cc: Stephen Pollei <stephen.pollei@gmail.com>,
Jason L Tibbitts III <tibbs@math.uh.edu>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Patch] Support UTF-8 scripts
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 00:10:50 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <42FFC16A.3000500@v.loewis.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1124050979.4918.3.camel@mindpipe>
Lee Revell wrote:
> For strings, of course. But there's no need for UTF-8 operators.
Indeed - this is the main rationale for the patch, of course. People
want to write non-ASCII in script primarily in string literals,
and (perhaps even more often) in comments. Now, for comments, it
wouldn't really matter that the interpreter knows what the encoding
is - but the editor would have to know, and the UTF-8 signature
primarily helps the editor (*).
Then we are back to the rationale for this patch: if you need the
UTF-8 signature to reliably identify the script as being UTF-8
encoded, you then currently cannot easily run it as a script through
binfmt_script, as that code requires a script to start with #!.
Regards,
Martin
(*) As I said before: atleast for Python, the UTF-8 signature also
has syntactic meaning. It is allowed at the beginning of a file
as an addition to the language syntax, and it tells the interpreter
that Unicode literals (usually represented internally as UCS-2)
are represented as UTF-8 in the source code.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-08-14 22:10 UTC|newest]
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2005-08-13 12:07 [Patch] Support UTF-8 scripts "Martin v. Löwis"
2005-08-13 16:35 ` Stephen Pollei
2005-08-13 18:42 ` Lee Revell
2005-08-13 18:49 ` Hugo Mills
2005-08-13 18:53 ` Lee Revell
2005-08-14 0:57 ` Alan Cox
2005-08-14 1:19 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-08-14 1:40 ` Lee Revell
2005-08-14 10:40 ` Wichert Akkerman
2005-08-13 19:20 ` Lee Revell
2005-08-16 9:46 ` Jan Engelhardt
2005-08-14 0:53 ` Alan Cox
2005-08-14 4:10 ` James Cloos
2005-08-14 6:18 ` Jason L Tibbitts III
[not found] ` <feed8cdd050814125845fe4e2e@mail.gmail.com>
2005-08-14 19:59 ` Lee Revell
2005-08-14 20:13 ` Stephen Pollei
2005-08-14 20:22 ` Lee Revell
2005-08-14 22:10 ` "Martin v. Löwis" [this message]
2005-08-14 23:55 ` Alan Cox
2005-08-16 13:56 ` David Madore
[not found] ` <mailman.1124063520.13257.linux-kernel2news@redhat.com>
2005-08-16 20:17 ` Pete Zaitcev
2005-08-14 21:52 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-08-14 22:12 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-08-15 8:01 ` Helge Hafting
2005-08-31 23:27 ` H. Peter Anvin
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2005-09-15 18:24 ` "Martin v. Löwis"
2005-09-15 18:25 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-09-15 18:39 ` "Martin v. Löwis"
2005-09-15 19:20 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-09-16 8:13 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
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2005-09-16 18:02 ` Bodo Eggert
2005-09-16 18:09 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-09-16 18:57 ` Bodo Eggert
2005-09-16 19:08 ` Martin Mares
2005-09-16 19:25 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-09-16 19:57 ` Horst von Brand
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2005-09-17 6:28 ` "Martin v. Löwis"
2005-09-17 22:31 ` D. Hazelton
2005-09-18 3:45 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-09-19 0:14 ` D. Hazelton
2005-09-18 6:58 ` "Martin v. Löwis"
2005-09-19 0:31 ` D. Hazelton
2005-09-17 17:16 ` Bodo Eggert
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2005-09-18 0:53 ` Bodo Eggert
2005-09-18 16:53 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
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2005-09-18 19:23 ` Bodo Eggert
2005-09-18 21:03 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2005-09-19 19:37 ` Bodo Eggert
2005-09-18 22:29 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-09-19 6:03 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-09-19 4:54 ` "Martin v. Löwis"
2005-09-19 8:26 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2005-09-19 9:00 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-09-19 9:41 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2005-09-19 21:40 ` "Martin v. Löwis"
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2005-09-16 20:34 ` "Martin v. Löwis"
2005-09-17 12:01 ` Martin Mares
2005-09-17 12:25 ` "Martin v. Löwis"
2005-09-17 12:28 ` Martin Mares
2005-09-17 12:53 ` "Martin v. Löwis"
2005-09-17 13:05 ` Martin Mares
2005-09-17 13:33 ` "Martin v. Löwis"
2005-09-19 7:08 ` Pavel Machek
2005-09-19 7:18 ` "Martin v. Löwis"
2005-09-19 7:24 ` Pavel Machek
2005-09-19 7:46 ` "Martin v. Löwis"
2005-09-19 7:50 ` Pavel Machek
2005-09-19 10:48 ` Alan Cox
2005-09-19 23:49 ` Horst von Brand
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2005-09-16 20:41 ` "Martin v. Löwis"
2005-09-16 22:08 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-09-17 6:05 ` "Martin v. Löwis"
2005-09-16 22:45 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2005-09-17 6:20 ` "Martin v. Löwis"
2005-09-17 22:28 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2005-09-18 7:23 ` "Martin v. Löwis"
2005-09-18 14:50 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2005-09-17 6:45 ` "Martin v. Löwis"
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2005-09-19 5:11 ` "Martin v. Löwis"
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