From: Hans Reiser <reiser@namesys.com>
To: David Masover <ninja@slaphack.com>
Cc: Shawn Rutledge <shawn.t.rutledge@gmail.com>,
"Vladimir V. Saveliev" <vs@namesys.com>,
reiserfs-list@namesys.com
Subject: Re: where is the journal kept?
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 22:51:54 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4302D07A.40804@namesys.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <430268F4.8020100@slaphack.com>
David Masover wrote:
> Shawn Rutledge wrote:
>
> >On 8/16/05, Hans Reiser <reiser@namesys.com> wrote:
>
> >>Reiser4 does a very nice job of packing the tree tightly, which is
> >>independent of seeks. Ditto for compression plugin.
> >>He merely needs to ignore some code, he is not harmed by it. If he
> >>wants to write a new block allocator, sure, why not, we have allocator
> >>plugins yes? His will just be simpler.....
>
>
> >But the most important thing is to reduce the number of writes as low
> >as possible.
>
>
> Something Reiser4 does very well. If you have enough RAM, it's possible
> to avoid any reads/writes at all -- given enough RAM, it behaves as a
> ramdisk, which is why I wish I knew how to tell Gentoo to *not* mount
> tmpfs over /dev.
>
> One other thing you might try is disabling the write-twice behavior.
> Currently, if you've got a huge, fairly well-sorted file that you're
> making lots of tiny writes to, such as a database, it makes sense to
> write twice to keep the file from getting fragmented. But,
> fragmentation isn't nearly as much an issue on truly random-access
> media, so you'd want the default small-file behavior to be used
> everywhere -- first write the data to the new location, then atomically
> update the pointer to it as you deallocate the old location.
>
> Am I right about this? I'm not feeling very lucid today...
Yes, but there is not a lot of write twice for most usage patterns....
Hans
prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-08-17 5:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-08-15 11:53 where is the journal kept? Payal Rathod
2005-08-15 12:25 ` Vladimir V. Saveliev
2005-08-15 12:50 ` Payal Rathod
2005-08-15 12:58 ` Vladimir V. Saveliev
2005-08-15 13:12 ` Pat Double
2005-08-15 14:26 ` Vladimir V. Saveliev
2005-08-15 15:52 ` David Masover
2005-08-15 16:19 ` Shawn Rutledge
2005-08-15 17:34 ` Vladimir V. Saveliev
2005-08-15 18:08 ` Shawn Rutledge
2005-08-16 19:59 ` Hans Reiser
2005-08-16 20:27 ` Shawn Rutledge
2005-08-16 22:30 ` David Masover
2005-08-16 23:23 ` Shawn Rutledge
2005-08-17 0:02 ` David Masover
2005-08-17 0:47 ` Shawn Rutledge
2005-08-17 5:51 ` Hans Reiser [this message]
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