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From: Peter Staubach <staubach@redhat.com>
To: Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no>
Cc: Michael <mikore.li@gmail.com>, nfs@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: can anyone explain this state?
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 08:26:26 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <43032CF2.3070908@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1124280174.23245.4.camel@lade.trondhjem.org>

Trond Myklebust wrote:

>on den 17.08.2005 Klokka 19:13 (+0800) skreiv Michael:
>  
>
>>Hi, 
>>
>>These day, I observed a strange thing when I copy a 100MB file from
>>nfs server, both client and server is running redhat 9.0 with kernel
>>2.4.20-8:
>>
>>$ sudo mount -o
>>rw,bg,vers=3,tcp,timeo=600,rsize=1024,wsize=1024,hard,intr,ac
>>server1:/home/test filetest
>>$ time cp ./filetest/new100m /tmp/o100m
>>
>>real    1m6.575s
>>user    0m0.040s
>>sys     0m1.430s
>>$ time cp ./filetest/new100m /tmp/o100m
>>
>>real    0m4.964s     =================> it is so different comparing
>>with above time!!
>>user    0m0.030s
>>sys     0m0.570s
>>    
>>
>
>This is done using synchronous writes. Each write will wait for the
>server to commit it to disk.
>
>  
>
>>$ sudo umount filetest
>>$ sudo mount -o
>>rw,bg,vers=3,tcp,timeo=600,rsize=102400,wsize=102400,hard,intr,ac
>>server1:/home/test filetest
>>$ time cp ./filetest/new100m /tmp/o100m
>>
>>real    0m9.075s
>>user    0m0.020s
>>sys     0m0.470s
>>$ time cp ./filetest/new100m /tmp/o100m
>>
>>real    0m7.501s    ==================>only different in 2 seconds!
>>why not less than 4.9 seconds?
>>user    0m0.000s
>>sys     0m0.520s
>>    
>>
>
>This is done using asynchronous writes. Much faster, and no need (on
>NFSv3) to wait for the disk before sending the next request.
>
>The reason is that on 2.4 kernels (and early 2.6 kernels) we could only
>do synchronous writes when you set wsize < PAGE_SIZE.
>

Maybe I am misreading the commands being run, but they look like they would
generate all NFS READ traffic.  It appears to be copying from an NFS mounted
file system to /tmp, a local file system.

I would chalk most of these differences up to caching, as in the difference
between #1 and #2, and general system dynamics for the differences between
#3 and #4.

By the way, setting rsize and wsize large like that is probably not helping.
The transfer sizes are calculated as the minimum of the transfer sizes
advertised by the server and what the client can support.  In this case,
the server would probably be limiting the transfer sizes.

One last point, I would question your original timing and what the
configuration looks like.  100M shouldn't take 66 seconds to transfer.
Even over a 100baseT wire it should take about 10 seconds...

    Thanx...

       ps


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  reply	other threads:[~2005-08-17 12:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-08-17 11:13 can anyone explain this state? Michael
2005-08-17 12:02 ` Trond Myklebust
2005-08-17 12:26   ` Peter Staubach [this message]
2005-08-17 12:31     ` Peter Staubach
2005-08-17 12:39     ` Trond Myklebust
2005-08-17 13:39       ` Michael
2005-08-17 14:40         ` Peter Staubach
2005-08-17 14:50           ` Michael
2005-08-17 23:51       ` Greg Banks
2005-08-18  0:18         ` Trond Myklebust
2005-08-18 13:41           ` Michael
2005-08-18 14:02             ` Trond Myklebust

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