From: Hans Reiser <reiser@namesys.com>
To: Edward Shishkin <edward@namesys.com>
Cc: Reiserfs developers mail-list <Reiserfs-Dev@namesys.com>,
Reiserfs List <reiserfs-list@namesys.com>
Subject: Re: Basic interface for key management in reiser4 (DRAFT)
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 17:52:50 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <430BC4E2.8080204@namesys.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <430B4556.6000608@namesys.com>
Edward Shishkin wrote:
> Hans Reiser wrote:
>
>> Edward Shishkin wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>>
>>>> When you load a key, who can access the file? Only the person who
>>>> loaded it, yes or?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Currently standard unix permissions work here.
>>>
>>
>>
>> but the idea is to use keys instead of standard unix permissions....
>>
>> I think you need to store keys in a per process place, and allow
>> specifying whether children of a process inherit the keys somehow.
>>
>>
>
> Unfortunately the encrypt-on-flush violates all this beauty: the flush,
> which serves all the files, can not look for a key in the process
> keyring (*), therefore besides the process keyrings, reiser4 should
> create and manage its own keyring (accessible to the flush). It means
> additional charges on searching, hashing, updating, etc..
>
> (*) Because:
> 1) the flush does not have needed task_struct;
> 2) the flush can not return an error if someone killed the key in
> the process keyring.
>
> Edward.
>
>
per process is not the same as "in user space and under user control"
Also the key to encrypt a given file with should be specified to the fs
at open() or at sys_reiser4() time, not at flush time.
Please consider these thoughts, and then revise and resend your opinion
on this.
prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-08-24 0:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-08-17 14:50 Basic interface for key management in reiser4 (DRAFT) Edward Shishkin
2005-08-17 19:52 ` Hans Reiser
2005-08-18 18:33 ` Edward Shishkin
2005-08-19 0:30 ` Hans Reiser
2005-08-19 4:18 ` Gregory Maxwell
2005-08-19 5:17 ` Hans Reiser
2005-08-19 7:16 ` Gregory Maxwell
2005-08-19 14:56 ` Edward Shishkin
2005-08-19 11:43 ` Edward Shishkin
2005-08-19 14:48 ` Gregory Maxwell
2005-08-19 10:45 ` Edward Shishkin
2005-08-23 15:48 ` Edward Shishkin
2005-08-24 0:52 ` Hans Reiser [this message]
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