* Incorrect CLOCK_TICK_RATE in 2.6 kernel
@ 2005-08-25 0:24 George Anzinger
2005-08-25 0:33 ` john stultz
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From: George Anzinger @ 2005-08-25 0:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: lkml, john stultz
CLOCK_TICK_RATE is used by the kernel to compute LATCH, TICK_NSEC and
tick_nsec. This latter is used to update xtime each tick. TICK_NSEC is
then used to compute (at compile time) the conversion constants needed
to convert to/from jiffies from/to timespec and timeval (and others).
The problem is that, if the timer being used is either Cyclone or HPET,
the wrong CLOCK_TICK_RATE is used. This means that systems using these
interrupt sources will be doing a) incorrect update of xtime and b)
incorrect conversion of jiffies. Since these two values will track each
other this will not be seen by simple gettimeofday();
sleep();gettimeofday() tests, but will be seen as a system clock drift
(without NTP) or with NTP, a somewhat high drift rate (to the point of
loosing sync at HZ=1000).
The fact that the user/ system chooses the clock to use at boot time and
can change the clock after boot means that it is not possible to pin
down CLOCK_TICK_RATE at compile time. However, since the computation of
TICK_NSEC and the conversion constants is rather involved it is clear
that we REALLY do want to compute these at compile time.
The suggested solution is to a) set up a structure with the default
(clock of choice at config time) conversion constants in it at compile
time. Then b) at clock init time, populate the structure with the
proper constants for the given clock. These can be computed at compile
time, but from the correct CLOCK_TICK_RATE for the given clock.
Switching to a fall back clock would also require an update of this
structure.
Commits?
--
George Anzinger george@mvista.com
HRT (High-res-timers): http://sourceforge.net/projects/high-res-timers/
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* Re: Incorrect CLOCK_TICK_RATE in 2.6 kernel
2005-08-25 0:24 Incorrect CLOCK_TICK_RATE in 2.6 kernel George Anzinger
@ 2005-08-25 0:33 ` john stultz
2005-08-25 1:30 ` George Anzinger
0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: john stultz @ 2005-08-25 0:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: george; +Cc: lkml
On Wed, 2005-08-24 at 17:24 -0700, George Anzinger wrote:
> CLOCK_TICK_RATE is used by the kernel to compute LATCH, TICK_NSEC and
> tick_nsec. This latter is used to update xtime each tick. TICK_NSEC is
> then used to compute (at compile time) the conversion constants needed
> to convert to/from jiffies from/to timespec and timeval (and others).
>
> The problem is that, if the timer being used is either Cyclone or HPET,
> the wrong CLOCK_TICK_RATE is used.
Err, the Cyclone does not generate interrupts. So this issue does not
affect those systems.
As for the HPET, it sets its own interrupt frequency based off of
KERNEL_TICK_USEC (which you're right, isn't quite what is used in the
jiffies conversions). Would it be easier to just adjust that value to
use ACTHZ or CLOCK_TICK_RATE?
thanks
-john
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* Re: Incorrect CLOCK_TICK_RATE in 2.6 kernel
2005-08-25 0:33 ` john stultz
@ 2005-08-25 1:30 ` George Anzinger
0 siblings, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: George Anzinger @ 2005-08-25 1:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: john stultz; +Cc: lkml
john stultz wrote:
> On Wed, 2005-08-24 at 17:24 -0700, George Anzinger wrote:
>
>>CLOCK_TICK_RATE is used by the kernel to compute LATCH, TICK_NSEC and
>>tick_nsec. This latter is used to update xtime each tick. TICK_NSEC is
>>then used to compute (at compile time) the conversion constants needed
>>to convert to/from jiffies from/to timespec and timeval (and others).
>>
>>The problem is that, if the timer being used is either Cyclone or HPET,
>>the wrong CLOCK_TICK_RATE is used.
>
>
> Err, the Cyclone does not generate interrupts. So this issue does not
> affect those systems.
>
> As for the HPET, it sets its own interrupt frequency based off of
> KERNEL_TICK_USEC (which you're right, isn't quite what is used in the
> jiffies conversions). Would it be easier to just adjust that value to
> use ACTHZ or CLOCK_TICK_RATE?
If you want to take that approach you would want the HPET to interrupt
every TICK_NSEC nanoseconds, that being what xtime is pushed by each tick.
--
George Anzinger george@mvista.com
HRT (High-res-timers): http://sourceforge.net/projects/high-res-timers/
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