From: Hans Reiser <reiser@namesys.com>
To: michael chang <thenewme91@gmail.com>
Cc: Hifumi Hisashi <hifumi.hisashi@lab.ntt.co.jp>,
reiserfs-dev@namesys.com, reiserfs-list@namesys.com,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Chris Mason <mason@suse.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] fix problems related to journaling in Reiserfs
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 20:30:59 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <431675F3.2040108@namesys.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b14e81f005083117377ee7556a@mail.gmail.com>
3.6 will always be supported for bug fixes, but will not receive new
features if I can help it. It is stable supported code, and should be
kept that way.
Regarding the journaling implementation, let's see what Chris says
before I comment.
Hans
michael chang wrote:
>On 8/31/05, Hifumi Hisashi <hifumi.hisashi@lab.ntt.co.jp> wrote:
>
>
>>michael chang wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Surely we don't want this. Look at the papers on Namesys's websites,
>>>about the atomicaty and the banking example. But that's just my
>>>personal opinion. Besides, I believe it's more likely that usually
>>>the power gets lost than the SCSI or IDE cable gets disconnected,
>>>AFAIK...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> A write() syscall with the O_SYNC flag must ensure that not only
>>file data block
>>but also journal (meta-data update) are written to a disk when this
>>syscall end.
>> But, current implementation of Reiserfs does not do that. If a system
>>crashes,
>>a filesystem recovers from the journal transaction log. But, Reiserfs
>>may not
>>recover in some cases.
>> I checked other filesystems like ext3, jfs, xfs. Those filesystem
>>write transactions
>>to a disk everytime write() with the O_SYNC is performed. In those
>>filesystem,
>>I have no trouble mentioned above.
>>
>> I should say, the Reiserfs would be "un"reliable filesystem..........
>>
>>
>
>That said, AFAIK, Reiser(fs) 3.6 patches are somewhat redundant
>(although if they solve a "problem", sure, go ahead) since this
>funcationality should be present in Reiser4 in one form or another --
>I don't know if Reiser3.6 is still "supported" per se, anyways. But
>don't bash on me -- I'm not subscribed to the reiserfs-dev nor
>linux-fsdevel lists, so don't bash me for saying something I shouldn't
>say otherwise (I don't see how removing these lists from the replies
>would help, but if that is requested, let me know).
>
>
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-09-01 3:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-08-31 12:39 [PATCH] fix problems related to journaling in Reiserfs Hifumi Hisashi
2005-08-31 13:42 ` michael chang
2005-09-01 0:02 ` Hifumi Hisashi
2005-09-01 0:37 ` michael chang
2005-09-01 3:30 ` Hans Reiser [this message]
2005-09-01 7:47 ` Vladimir V. Saveliev
2005-09-01 3:35 ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-02 2:03 ` Chris Mason
2005-10-04 8:47 ` Hifumi Hisashi
2005-10-04 10:40 ` Hans Reiser
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