hi, i have found that guest and host can't communicate with each other with pcnet patch, but ne2000 is okey. (http://dad-answers.com/qemu/patches/AMD-PCNET-II/qemu-pcnet.patch6.gz) reproduce steps -- use attached qemu-ifup and do a "ifconfig eth0 172.20.0.2 up" in guest after boot. the ping between guest and host doesn't work. root cause is that arp packet from tun interface (42 bytes) is small than the minimal size(60 bytes) and is droped by guest pcnet driver. attached patch(borrowed from ne2000) just expend the packet when size < 60. any comments? thanks, edwin