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From: Luben Tuikov <luben_tuikov@adaptec.com>
To: Patrick Mansfield <patmans@us.ibm.com>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@SteelEye.com>,
	Douglas Gilbert <dougg@torque.net>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Luben Tuikov <ltuikov@yahoo.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	SCSI Mailing List <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2.6.13 5/14] sas-class: sas_discover.c Discover process (end devices)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 08:13:23 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <432813E3.5070308@adaptec.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050913222519.GA1308@us.ibm.com>

On 09/13/05 18:25, Patrick Mansfield wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 05:02:36PM -0400, Luben Tuikov wrote:
> 
>>On 09/13/05 16:36, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 04:23:42PM -0400, Luben Tuikov wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>A SCSI LUN is not "u64 lun", it has never been and it will
>>>>never be.
>>>>
>>>>A SCSI LUN is "u8 LUN[8]" -- it is this from the Application
>>>>Layer down to the _transport layer_ (if you cared to look at
>>>>_any_ LL transport).
> 
> 
> Not all HBA drivers implement a mapping to a SCSI transport, we have
> raid drivers and even an FC driver that has its own lun definition that
> does not fit any SAM or SCSI spec.

Us too.  Especially RAID.

> I think the only HBA's today that can handle an 8 byte lun are lpfc and
> iscsi (plus new SAS ones).
> 
> So, we can't have one "LUN" that fits all, and it makes no sense to call
> it a LUN when it is really a wtf.

"u64 lun" is a lot worse than "u8 LUN[8]".  you can work with
the latter but the former raises questions like
 "How was this translated from the "u8 LUN[8]" which I use
  in the application client and in the transport?"
Etc.

Then, if your lun is 16 bits, there is no question where it is
in "u8 LUN[8]" -- SAM is _clear_ on that.

Second, as I said before a Logical Unit Number _is_ "u8 LUN[8]",
there is _no_ MSB or LSB, and there will never be.  Thus, you cannot
stuff it into "u64".

Yes, we _can_ have _one_ LUN that fits all, _because_
we would copy it _as_ is from the LLDD, be it 16 bits or
32 bits or whatever, in SCSI order format: Big endian.

Again, SAM is clear on that.

	Luben



  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-09-14 12:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-09-09 19:40 [PATCH 2.6.13 5/14] sas-class: sas_discover.c Discover process (end devices) Luben Tuikov
2005-09-09 19:59 ` Nish Aravamudan
2005-09-09 20:11   ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-09 23:25 ` James Bottomley
2005-09-10  2:44   ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-10  5:39     ` Douglas Gilbert
2005-09-10 16:01     ` James Bottomley
2005-09-12 15:06       ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-12 16:27         ` Patrick Mansfield
2005-09-12 20:08           ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-13  9:05           ` Douglas Gilbert
2005-09-13 13:11             ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-13 22:42             ` Patrick Mansfield
2005-09-14 12:28               ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-14 17:13                 ` Patrick Mansfield
2005-09-14 17:17                   ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-14 18:47               ` James Bottomley
2005-09-14 20:20                 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-12 17:52         ` James Bottomley
2005-09-12 20:31           ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-12 21:23             ` James Bottomley
2005-09-13 12:49               ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-13 15:54                 ` James Bottomley
2005-09-13 20:01                   ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-11  9:46     ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-09-12  6:17       ` Douglas Gilbert
2005-09-12 14:57         ` James Bottomley
2005-09-12 16:45           ` Patrick Mansfield
2005-09-12 17:21             ` James Bottomley
2005-09-12 18:46               ` Patrick Mansfield
2005-09-13 19:22                 ` James Bottomley
2005-09-13 20:23                   ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-13 20:36                     ` Matthew Wilcox
2005-09-13 21:02                       ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-13 21:37                         ` Stefan Richter
2005-09-13 21:54                           ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-13 22:25                         ` Patrick Mansfield
2005-09-14  5:22                           ` Sergey Panov
2005-09-14 16:28                             ` Patrick Mansfield
2005-09-14 12:13                           ` Luben Tuikov [this message]
2005-09-14  4:57                       ` Sergey Panov
2005-09-14 18:43                         ` James Bottomley
2005-09-14 20:17                           ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-15  2:04                           ` Sergey Panov
2005-09-12 20:20               ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-12 20:09             ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-12 19:39           ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-12 18:17         ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-13 10:25         ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-09-13 12:47           ` Douglas Gilbert
2005-09-13 14:58             ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-12 22:39       ` Luben Tuikov
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-09-12 19:04 James.Smart
2005-09-12 19:04 ` James.Smart
2005-09-12 19:29 ` Patrick Mansfield
2005-09-12 19:53 James.Smart
2005-09-12 19:53 ` James.Smart
2005-09-14  0:58 Ravi Anand
2005-09-14 17:46 Ravi Anand
2005-09-16  7:28 Andreas Herrmann

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