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From: "Artem B. Bityutskiy" <dedekind@yandex.ru>
To: "Jörn Engel" <joern@wohnheim.fh-wedel.de>
Cc: Peter Menzebach <pm-mtd@mw-itcon.de>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: data  loss on jffs2 filesystem on dataflash
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 18:11:03 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <43301877.3040306@yandex.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050920133244.GC4634@wohnheim.fh-wedel.de>

Jörn Engel wrote:
> Still can't.  Block devices have the attribute that writing AAA... to
> a block containing BBB... gives you one of three possible results in
> case of power failure:
> 
> 1. BBB...BBB all written
> 2. AAA...AAA nothing written
> 3. AAA...BBB partially written.
> 
> Flash doesn't have 3, but two more cases:
> 4. FFF...FFF erased, nothing written
> 5. AAA...FFF erased, partially written
> 
> Plus the really obnoxious
> 6. FFF...FFF partially erased.  Looks fine but some bits may flip
>    randomly, writes may not stick, etc.
> 
> Now try finding a filesystem that is robust if 4-6 happens. ;)
Don't underastand this. If you mean the atomicity, CRC may help here. 
And no problems. Or may be you missed the the fact that we have 
eraseblock size = writeblock size?

>>JFFS2 orients to "classical" flashes. They have no "write page with 
>>built-in erase" operation.
> What does this thing do?
It erases individual page, then writes there. To put it differently, in 
your terminology, eraseblock size = writeblock size.

P.S. I actually missed the mailing list, this should have gone to the 
MTD ML. So let's move there please.

-- 
Best Regards,
Artem B. Bityuckiy,
St.-Petersburg, Russia.


  reply	other threads:[~2005-09-20 14:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-09-14 12:09 data loss on jffs2 filesystem on dataflash Peter Menzebach
2005-09-14 12:30 ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-09-14 13:43   ` Peter Menzebach
2005-09-15  7:48     ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-09-15  7:39   ` Peter Menzebach
2005-09-15  7:49     ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-09-15  7:53     ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
     [not found]       ` <43292AC6.40809@mw-itcon.de>
     [not found]         ` <43292E16.70401@yandex.ru>
     [not found]           ` <43292F91.9010302@mw-itcon.de>
2005-09-20 10:18             ` Artem B. Bityutskiy
     [not found]               ` <432FEF55.5090700@mw-itcon.de>
2005-09-20 11:21                 ` Artem B. Bityutskiy
2005-09-20 12:55                 ` Artem B. Bityutskiy
2005-09-20 13:18                   ` Artem B. Bityutskiy
2005-09-20 13:38                     ` Peter Menzebach
2005-09-20 14:18                       ` Artem B. Bityutskiy
2005-09-20 15:01                         ` Peter Menzebach
2005-09-20 15:11                           ` Andrew Victor
2005-09-20 15:22                             ` Jörn Engel
2005-09-20 16:31                             ` Artem B. Bityutskiy
2005-09-21  7:21                               ` Andrew Victor
2005-09-21  9:25                                 ` Artem B. Bityutskiy
2005-09-21 10:27                                   ` Peter Menzebach
2005-09-21 13:36                                     ` Artem B. Bityutskiy
2005-09-21 13:41                                       ` Artem B. Bityutskiy
2005-09-21 15:44                                       ` Peter Menzebach
2005-09-21 15:59                                         ` Artem B. Bityutskiy
2005-09-21 16:10                                           ` Peter Menzebach
2005-09-21 16:19                                             ` Artem B. Bityutskiy
2005-09-21 17:10                                               ` Peter Menzebach
2005-09-22 10:38                                                 ` Peter Menzebach
2005-09-22 10:51                                                   ` Artem B. Bityutskiy
2005-09-20 15:11                           ` Artem B. Bityutskiy
2005-09-20 15:45                             ` Peter Menzebach
2005-09-20 13:32                   ` Jörn Engel
2005-09-20 14:11                     ` Artem B. Bityutskiy [this message]
2005-09-20 14:36                       ` Jörn Engel
2005-09-20 14:48                         ` Artem B. Bityutskiy
2005-09-21 19:07                     ` Pavel Machek
2005-09-22 10:48                       ` Artem B. Bityutskiy
2005-09-22 16:46                         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-09-22 17:03                           ` Artem B. Bityutskiy
2005-09-22 17:22                             ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2005-09-22 18:43                               ` jscottkasten
2005-09-23  8:51                           ` Jörn Engel
2005-09-22 11:34                       ` Jörn Engel
2005-09-22 11:54                         ` Jörn Engel
2005-09-20 13:16                 ` Artem B. Bityutskiy
2005-09-15  8:02     ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
     [not found]       ` <43292E94.4020702@mw-itcon.de>
2005-09-15  8:26         ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-09-15  8:33           ` Peter Menzebach
2005-09-15  8:47         ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-09-15  9:14           ` Peter Menzebach
2005-09-15  9:25             ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-09-21 13:55           ` Peter Menzebach
2005-09-21 13:59             ` Artem B. Bityutskiy
2005-09-15 10:32         ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-09-22 12:30 ` Peter Menzebach
2005-09-22 12:44   ` Artem B. Bityutskiy
2005-09-22 13:31     ` Peter Menzebach
2005-09-22 14:06       ` Artem B. Bityutskiy
2005-09-22 14:32         ` Andrew Victor
2005-09-22 14:45           ` Artem B. Bityutskiy
2005-09-22 14:59           ` Peter Menzebach
2005-09-22 16:14           ` Peter Menzebach
2005-09-22 17:09             ` Peter Menzebach

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