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From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
To: Mark Lord <mlord@pobox.com>
Cc: Albert Lee <albertcc@tw.ibm.com>,
	Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <bzolnier@gmail.com>,
	Linux IDE <linux-ide@vger.kernel.org>,
	Doug Maxey <dwm@maxeymade.com>, Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>,
	Brett Russ <russb@emc.com>, Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH/RFC 4/4] irq-pio: add read/write multiple support
Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 05:43:34 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <43424EC6.2040100@pobox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <43413386.6000203@pobox.com>

Mark Lord wrote:
> Albert Lee wrote:
> 
>> Patch 4/4: add read/write multiple support
>>
> 
> One "fine point" when programming the R/W MULT commands
> is to remember that each register access is very costly
> in terms of processor time.
> 
> So whenever an access can be done with 28-bit LBA,
> it should not use the EXT versions of the instructions,
> even though the device may be LBA48 capable.
> 
> The various drivers I have written for Linux and other OSs
> that deal with this always logic equivalen to this somewhere:
> 
> if (lba_sector < (1<<28) && sector_count <= 256) {
>     use LBA28
> } else if (device is lba48 capable) {
>     use LBA48
> } else {
>     error
> }

Alan lists this on his PATA should-do list, too.

Since this is legacy hardware, I am a bit skeptical about doing this -- 
and also 32-bit PIO, which is in the same category -- because this 
increases the amount of code we have to deal with, for the same basic 
function.  For rarely-hit situations, I don't mind paying some 
performance penalty if it reduces long term maintenance.  I am willing 
to push some ancient platforms in the "slow but working" category, to 
keep the code small and easier to review/debug/maintain.

That said, it should be simple enough to push the logic into 
libata-scsi.c, where it translates a SCSI READ/WRITE command into an ATA 
read/write command.  Patches welcome...


> For SATA drives, this is unlikely to make any difference,
> but for PATA it can reduce the CPU overhead of issuing
> a command by 40% or so --> saves three PCI bus transactions,
> which amounts to about 1-4us real-time, depending on the
> exact hardware in question.

When running devices in PIO-only mode, the PCI bus transactions are very 
noticeable even with SATA.

Also, though this may be stating the obvious, all this discussion is 
irrelevant for FIS-based chips, since the control flow is entirely 
different there.


> I'm really looking forward to having PIO in libata,
> so that we can support compactflash cards and the like.
> My Delkin 32-bit Cardbus Adapter driver (currently in 2.4.x IDE)
> will be one of the first new pure PIO drivers in libata..

Cool :)

	Jeff




  reply	other threads:[~2005-10-04  9:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-09-09 16:14 [PATCH RFC] libata: interrupt driven pio Albert Lee
2005-09-09 17:35 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-09-09 18:14   ` Doug Maxey
2005-09-22  4:00   ` [PATCH/RFC 0/3] libata: interrupt driven pio (revised) Albert Lee
2005-09-22  4:09     ` [PATCH/RFC 1/3] libata: interrupt driven pio for libata-core Albert Lee
2005-09-23  9:25       ` Albert Lee
2005-09-22  4:11     ` [PATCH/RFC 2/3] libata: rename task states/variables Albert Lee
2005-09-23  9:34       ` Albert Lee
2005-09-22  4:14     ` [PATCH/RFC 3/3] libata: interrupt driven pio for LLD Albert Lee
2005-09-22 12:56       ` Mark Lord
2005-09-23  2:40         ` Albert Lee
2005-09-23  9:46     ` [PATCH/RFC 0/3] libata: interrupt driven pio (revised) Jeff Garzik
2005-09-27  9:31       ` [PATCH/RFC 0/4] libata: interrupt driven pio (revised 2) Albert Lee
2005-09-27  9:34         ` [PATCH/RFC 1/4] libata: indent and whitespace change Albert Lee
2005-09-27  9:36         ` [PATCH/RFC 2/4] libata: rename host states Albert Lee
2005-09-28 15:59           ` Jeff Garzik
2005-09-27  9:38         ` [PATCH/RFC 3/4] libata: interrupt driven pio for libata-core Albert Lee
2005-09-28 16:09           ` Jeff Garzik
2005-09-29 10:08           ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2005-09-30  8:02             ` Albert Lee
2005-09-30  9:28               ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2005-09-30 11:28                 ` Albert Lee
2005-09-30 12:00                   ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2005-09-30 11:04             ` [PATCH/RFC 0/4] libata: irq driven pio follow-up patches Albert Lee
2005-09-30 11:07               ` [PATCH/RFC 1/4] irq-pio: add comments and cleanup Albert Lee
2005-09-30 11:09               ` [PATCH/RFC 2/4] irq-pio: rename atapi_packet_task() and comments Albert Lee
2005-09-30 11:11               ` [PATCH/RFC 3/4] irq-pio: simplify if condition in ata_dataout_task() Albert Lee
2005-09-30 11:14               ` [PATCH/RFC 4/4] irq-pio: cleanup ata_qc_issue_prot() Albert Lee
2005-09-30 11:21               ` [PATCH/RFC 0/4] libata: irq driven pio follow-up patches Jeff Garzik
2005-10-03 11:46                 ` [PATCH/RFC 0/4] libata: more " Albert Lee
2005-10-03 13:00                   ` [PATCH/RFC 1/4] irq-pio: move functions Albert Lee
2005-10-03 13:02                   ` [PATCH/RFC 2/4] irq-pio: remove ap->dataout_task Albert Lee
2005-10-04 10:09                     ` Jeff Garzik
2005-10-04 11:54                       ` Albert Lee
2005-10-03 13:18                   ` [PATCH/RFC 3/4] irq-pio: integrate ata_pio_first_block() with ata_pio_task() Albert Lee
2005-10-04 10:10                     ` Jeff Garzik
2005-10-03 13:19                   ` [PATCH/RFC 4/4] irq-pio: add read/write multiple support Albert Lee
2005-10-03 13:35                     ` Mark Lord
2005-10-04  9:43                       ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2005-10-04 12:00                         ` Albert Lee
2005-10-04 12:07                           ` Jeff Garzik
2005-10-04 12:22                             ` [PATCH/RFC 0/4] libata: CHS follow-up patches Albert Lee
2005-10-04 12:27                               ` [PATCH/RFC 1/4] CHS: white space beautification Albert Lee
2005-10-04 12:49                                 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-10-04 12:29                               ` [PATCH/RFC 2/4] CHS: tidy up SCSI lba and transfer length calculation Albert Lee
2005-10-04 12:30                               ` [PATCH/RFC 3/4] CHS: add CHS support to ata_scsi_start_stop_xlat() Albert Lee
2005-10-04 12:34                               ` [PATCH/RFC 4/4] CHS: calculate LBA28/LBA48 commands and protocol on the fly Albert Lee
2005-10-04 12:52                                 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-10-05 11:16                                   ` [PATCH/RFC 0/4] libata: more CHS follow-up patches Albert Lee
2005-10-05 11:20                                     ` [PATCH/RFC 1/4] CHS: move the initialization of taskfile LBA flags Albert Lee
2005-10-05 11:23                                     ` [PATCH/RFC 2/4] CHS: calculate read/write commands and protocol on the fly Albert Lee
2005-10-05 11:25                                     ` [PATCH/RFC 3/4] CHS: support overriding the ata_rwcmd_protocol() function Albert Lee
2005-10-05 11:27                                     ` [PATCH/RFC 4/4] CHS: optimize LBA28/LBA48 usage Albert Lee
2005-10-05 11:59                                     ` [PATCH/RFC 1/4] CHS: move the initialization of taskfile LBA flags (resend) Albert Lee
2005-10-05 12:02                                     ` [PATCH/RFC 2/4] CHS: calculate read/write commands and protocol on the fly (resend) Albert Lee
2005-10-05 12:03                                     ` [PATCH/RFC 3/4] CHS: support overriding the ata_rwcmd_protocol() function (resend) Albert Lee
2005-10-05 12:04                                     ` [PATCH/RFC 4/4] CHS: optimize LBA28/LBA48 usage (resend) Albert Lee
2005-10-06 11:26                                     ` [PATCH/RFC 0/4] libata: more CHS follow-up patches Jeff Garzik
2005-10-07  6:53                                       ` [PATCH 0/3] libata: CHS follow-up patches (resend #2) Albert Lee
2005-10-07  6:58                                         ` [PATCH 1/3] CHS: move the initialization of taskfile LBA flags Albert Lee
2005-10-07  7:01                                         ` [PATCH 2/3] CHS: calculate read/write commands and protocol on the fly Albert Lee
2005-10-07  7:04                                         ` [PATCH 3/3] CHS: LBA28/LBA48 optimization Albert Lee
2005-10-07  8:32                                         ` [PATCH 0/3] libata: CHS follow-up patches (resend #4) Albert Lee
2005-10-07  8:34                                           ` [PATCH 1/3] CHS: move the initialization of taskfile LBA flags " Albert Lee
2005-10-07  8:36                                           ` [PATCH 2/3] CHS: calculate read/write commands and protocol on the fly " Albert Lee
2005-10-07  8:37                                           ` [PATCH 3/3] CHS: LBA28/LBA48 optimization " Albert Lee
2005-10-09 13:41                                           ` [PATCH 0/3] libata: CHS follow-up patches " Jeff Garzik
2005-10-11 11:05                                             ` [PATCH 0/4] libata: CHS follow-up patches (resend #5) Albert Lee
2005-10-11 11:09                                               ` [PATCH 1/4] CHS: move the initialization of taskfile LBA flags " Albert Lee
2005-10-11 11:11                                               ` [PATCH 2/4] CHS: calculate read/write commands and protocol on the fly " Albert Lee
2005-10-11 11:21                                               ` [PATCH 4/4] CHS: LBA28/LBA48 optimization " Albert Lee
2005-10-11 13:09                                                 ` Mark Lord
2005-10-11 13:12                                                 ` Mark Lord
2005-10-12  5:05                                                   ` Albert Lee
2005-10-04 15:48                                 ` [PATCH/RFC 4/4] CHS: calculate LBA28/LBA48 commands and protocol on the fly Alan Cox
2005-10-04 10:19                     ` [PATCH/RFC 4/4] irq-pio: add read/write multiple support Jeff Garzik
2005-09-27  9:39         ` [PATCH/RFC 4/4] libata: interrupt driven pio for LLD Albert Lee
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-11-01 11:12 [PATCH/RFC 0/4] libata: more irq driven pio follow-up patches Albert Lee
2005-11-01 11:33 ` [PATCH/RFC 4/4] irq-pio: add read/write multiple support Albert Lee

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