From: Stefan Smietanowski <stesmi@stesmi.com>
To: David Lang <david.lang@digitalinsight.com>
Cc: Helge Hafting <helgehaf@aitel.hist.no>,
Emmanuel Fleury <fleury@cs.aau.dk>,
Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
Linux Kernel ML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: freebox possible GPL violation
Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 03:12:09 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <434479E9.1040704@stesmi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.62.0510051741310.14560@qynat.qvtvafvgr.pbz>
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>> If the box downloads a linux kernel through the DSLAM network, then
>> someone is clearly distributing linux kernels through the DSLAM network.
>> I would guess it is the same guys, because relying on someone else
>> providing
>> them with kernels is a risky business. But whoever is on the other end
>> of the DSLAM net have to offer the source as well, because they _are_
>> distributing kernels.
>>
>> The fact that the user isn't supposed to know how this box work
>> doesn't change anything, of course. The GPL says those who
>> distribute the work - it doesn't matter that they don't tell the
>> customer that they're given a linux kernel. They still have to offer
>> the source if asked.
>
>
> the argument that they are making is that they are only moveing the
> kernel within their own companies equipment, and therefor it doesn't
> count as 'distribution'
>
> agree with this argument or not, but please acknowledge this point of
> view rather then pretending that they have no argument at all and are
> just plain refusing.
>
> David Lang
>
If one turns it on, doesn't turn it off, pays the 400 EUR and
as a result OWNS it, then what one has is a box that at that point
in time is running Linux and one is the owner of it.
// Stefan
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-10-06 1:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-10-05 11:13 freebox possible GPL violation Pierre Michon
2005-10-05 11:22 ` Emmanuel Fleury
2005-10-05 11:27 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-10-05 11:37 ` Emmanuel Fleury
2005-10-05 11:59 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-10-05 12:02 ` Emmanuel Fleury
2005-10-05 12:07 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-10-05 12:29 ` Emmanuel Fleury
2005-10-05 12:45 ` Michael Poole
2005-10-05 17:11 ` Alexandre Oliva
2005-10-06 0:07 ` Helge Hafting
2005-10-06 0:49 ` David Lang
2005-10-06 1:12 ` Stefan Smietanowski [this message]
2005-10-06 2:25 ` David Lang
2005-10-06 9:20 ` Helge Hafting
2005-10-06 9:51 ` Emmanuel Fleury
2005-10-06 9:53 ` Emmanuel Fleury
2005-10-06 11:39 ` Helge Hafting
2005-10-06 13:05 ` Emmanuel Fleury
2005-10-06 13:42 ` Michael Poole
2005-10-06 14:19 ` Helge Hafting
2005-10-06 20:15 ` Stefan Smietanowski
2005-10-11 2:27 ` David Schwartz
2005-10-11 10:48 ` Graham Murray
2005-10-05 12:15 ` Vincent Hanquez
2005-10-05 11:45 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2005-10-05 11:59 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-10-05 11:50 ` Emmanuel Fleury
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-10-06 23:26 Pierre Michon
2005-10-06 12:01 Pierre Michon
2005-10-06 13:06 ` Emmanuel Fleury
2005-10-06 13:40 ` Michael Poole
2005-10-06 14:48 ` Matan Peled
2005-10-05 17:57 Pierre Michon
2005-10-05 16:06 Pierre Michon
2005-10-05 16:47 ` Emmanuel Fleury
2005-10-05 15:18 Pierre Michon
2005-10-05 15:49 ` Vincent Hanquez
2005-10-05 15:12 Pierre Michon
2005-10-05 15:08 Pierre Michon
2005-10-05 10:08 Pierre Michon
2005-10-05 10:18 ` Emmanuel Fleury
2005-10-05 8:47 Pierre Michon
2005-10-05 9:42 ` Helge Hafting
2005-10-15 9:40 ` Loic Dachary
2005-10-19 17:58 ` Pierre Michon
2005-10-20 15:29 ` Loic Dachary
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