From: Kirill Korotaev <dev@sw.ru>
To: linux@horizon.com
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: SMP syncronization on AMD processors (broken?)
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 16:25:03 +0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <434E521F.40100@sw.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20051011235017.21719.qmail@science.horizon.com>
Thanks a lot for the interesting idea provided below.
I will try to implement it.
Kirill
>>The whole story started when we wrote the following code:
>>
>>void XXX(void)
>>{
>> /* ints disabled */
>>restart:
>> spin_lock(&lock);
>> do_something();
>> if (!flag)
>> need_restart = 1;
>> spin_unlock(&lock);
>> if (need_restart)
>> goto restart; <<<< LOOPS 4EVER ON AMD!!!
>>}
>>
>>void YYY(void)
>>{
>> spin_lock(&lock); <<<< SPINS 4EVER ON AMD!!!
>> flag = 1;
>> spin_unlock(&lock);
>>}
>>
>>function XXX() starts on CPU0 and begins to loop since flag is not set,
>>then CPU1 calls function YYY() and it turns out that it can't take the
>>lock any arbitrary time.
>
>
> The right thing to do here is to wait for the flag to be set *outside*
> the lock, and then re-validate inside the lock:
>
> void XXX(void)
> {
> /* ints disabled */
> restart:
> spin_lock(&lock);
> do_something();
> if (!flag)
> need_restart = 1;
> spin_unlock(&lock);
> if (need_restart) {
> while (!flag)
> cpu_relax();
> goto restart;
> }
> }
>
> This way, XXX() keeps the lock dropped for as long as it takes for
> YYY() to notice and grab it.
>
>
> However, I realize that this is of course a simplified case of some real
> code, where even *finding* the flag requires the spin lock.
>
> The generic solution is to have a global "progress" counter, which
> records "I made progress toward setting flag", that XXX() can
> busy-loop on:
>
> int progress;
>
> void XXX(void)
> {
> int old_progress;
> /* ints disabled */
> restart:
> spin_lock(&lock);
> do_something();
> if (!flag) {
> old_progress = progress;
> need_restart = 1;
> }
> spin_unlock(&lock);
> if (need_restart) {
> while (progress == old_progress)
> cpu_relax();
> goto restart;
> }
> }
>
> void YYY(void)
> {
> spin_lock(&lock);
> flag = 1;
> progress++;
> spin_unlock(&lock);
> }
>
> It may be that in your data structure, there is one or a series of
> fields that already exist that you can use for the purpose. The goal
> is to merely detect *change*, so you can reacquire the lock and test
> definitively. It's okay to read freed memory while doing this, as long as
> you can be sure that:
> - The memory read won't oops the kernel, and
> - You don't end up depending on the value of the freed memory to
> get you out of the stall.
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-10-13 12:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-10-11 23:50 SMP syncronization on AMD processors (broken?) linux
2005-10-12 2:12 ` Christopher Friesen
2005-10-12 2:39 ` linux
2005-10-12 3:27 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-10-13 12:25 ` Kirill Korotaev [this message]
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-10-08 9:31 Chuck Ebbert
2005-10-06 13:05 Kirill Korotaev
2005-10-06 13:14 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2005-10-06 13:19 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-10-06 13:32 ` Andrey Savochkin
2005-10-06 14:22 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-10-06 13:32 ` Andi Kleen
2005-10-06 13:46 ` Andrey Savochkin
2005-10-06 14:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-10-06 15:21 ` Andrey Savochkin
2005-10-06 15:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-10-11 0:59 ` Andrew Morton
2005-10-11 1:20 ` Andi Kleen
2005-10-11 3:20 ` Joe Seigh
2005-10-06 13:50 ` Eric Dumazet
2005-10-06 14:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-10-06 15:34 ` Hugh Dickins
2005-10-06 15:53 ` Eric Dumazet
2005-10-06 16:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-10-07 20:38 ` Joe Seigh
2005-10-07 20:57 ` Stephen Hemminger
2005-10-13 18:24 ` Joe Seigh
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