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From: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>
To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Qemu and (Pacifica | Vanderpool)
Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2005 18:57:37 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <436EA681.1010302@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200511061533.13098.paul@codesourcery.com>

Paul Brook wrote:

>On Sunday 06 November 2005 15:19, Dave Feustel wrote:
>  
>
>>Will Qemu be modified to take advantage of the hardware virtualization
>>facilities incorporated in AMD's Pacifica and/or Intel's Vanderpool
>>technogies?
>>    
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>qemu is an emulator, not a virtualizer, so these extensions don't really help.
>  
>
Not quite.

qemu is technically a JIT.  kqemu/qvm86 are virtualizers.  Bochs is an 
actual emulator.

VT/SVM will definitely improve the performance of kqemu/qvm86.  The only 
bottleneck left in QEMU would be the IO emulation.  Since Xen uses the 
QEmu IO model any performance improvements for Xen IO emulation should 
be sharable with QEmu...

>You may want to look at Xen (www.xensource.com), which already supports these.
>  
>
Xen is a Type I VMM, QEmu is a Type II.  They aren't interchangable.

The main difference between a Type I and a Type II VMM is that a Type I 
runs on bare metal (and has control of the entire platform) whereas a 
Type II VMM runs within an Operating System.

The "Analysis of the Intel Pentium's Abiliity to Support a Secure VMM" 
paper has a good discussion of the differences between the two (the 
original Popek/Goldberg paper is pretty dense).

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

>Paul
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-11-07  0:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-11-06 15:19 [Qemu-devel] Qemu and (Pacifica | Vanderpool) Dave Feustel
2005-11-06 15:32 ` Hetz Ben Hamo
2005-11-06 15:33 ` Paul Brook
2005-11-06 16:16   ` Mark Williamson
2005-11-07  1:01     ` Anthony Liguori
2005-11-06 16:36   ` Dave Feustel
2005-11-07  0:57   ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2005-11-07  5:56     ` Jim C. Brown
2005-11-07  6:30       ` Anthony Liguori
2005-11-06 16:24 ` Jim C. Brown

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