From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: David Lang <david.lang@digitalinsight.com>
Cc: "Martin J. Bligh" <mbligh@mbligh.org>,
Anton Blanchard <anton@samba.org>,
Brian Twichell <tbrian@us.ibm.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, slpratt@us.ibm.com
Subject: Re: Database regression due to scheduler changes ?
Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 13:15:17 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <43700A35.1040403@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.62.0511071752550.9339@qynat.qvtvafvgr.pbz>
David Lang wrote:
> On Tue, 8 Nov 2005, Nick Piggin wrote:
>
>>
>> Long lived and memory intensive cloned or forked tasks will often
>> [but far from always :(] want to be put on another memory controller
>> from their siblings.
>>
>> On workloads where there are lots of short lived ones (some bloated
>> java programs), the load balancer should normally detect this and
>> cut the balance-on-fork/clone.
>
>
> although if the primary workload is short-lived tasks and you don't do
> balance-on-fork/clone won't you have trouble ever balancing things?
> (anything that you do move over will probably exit quickly and put you
> right back where you started)
>
You'll have no trouble if things *need* to be balanced, because
that would imply the runqueue length average is significantly
above the lengths of other runqueues.
As far as the extra test goes, it's really a miniscule overhead
compared with the fork / clone cost itself, and can be really
worthwhile if we get it right.
>
>> Of course there are going to be cases where this fails. I haven't
>> seen significant slowdowns in tests, although I'm sure there would
>> be some at least small regressions. Have you seen any? Do you have
>> any tests in mind that might show a problem?
>
>
> even though people will point out that it's a brin-dead workload (that
> should be converted to a state machine) I would expect that most
> fork-per-connection servers would show problems if the work per
> connection is small
>
Well it may be brain-dead, but if people use them (and they do)
then I would really be interested to see results.
I did testing with some things like apache and volanomark, however
I was not able to make out much difference on my setups. Though
obviously that's not to say that there won't be with other software
or other workloads / architectures etc.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-11-08 2:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-11-07 22:17 Database regression due to scheduler changes ? Brian Twichell
2005-11-07 22:35 ` David Lang
2005-11-07 23:06 ` Brian Twichell
2005-11-08 0:51 ` Nick Piggin
2005-11-08 1:15 ` Anton Blanchard
2005-11-08 1:34 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-11-08 1:46 ` Nick Piggin
2005-11-08 1:48 ` Nick Piggin
2005-11-08 1:58 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-11-08 2:04 ` David Lang
2005-11-08 2:12 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-11-08 2:15 ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2005-11-09 5:03 ` Brian Twichell
[not found] ` <43718DFE.3040600@yahoo.com.au>
2005-11-14 23:03 ` Brian Twichell
2005-11-08 2:31 ` Byron Stanoszek
2005-11-07 22:47 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2005-11-08 3:54 ` Nick Piggin
[not found] <43715361.3070802@us.ibm.com>
2005-11-09 2:14 ` Andrew Theurer
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