From: Philippe Gerum <rpm@xenomai.org>
To: Jan Kiszka <kiszka@domain.hid>
Cc: xenomai-core <xenomai@xenomai.org>
Subject: Re: [Xenomai-core] [BUG] scheduling order of dying shadow threads
Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 18:47:11 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4370E49F.3070305@domain.hid> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4370D2B8.8070608@domain.hid>
Jan Kiszka wrote:
> Philippe Gerum wrote:
>
>>Jan Kiszka wrote:
>>
>>>Hi Philippe,
>>>
>>>I think this one is for you: ;)
>>>
>>>Sebastian got almost mad with his CAN driver while tracing a strange
>>>scheduling behaviour during shadow thread deletion for several days(!) -
>>>and I was right on the way to follow him yesterday evening. Attached is
>>>a simplified demonstration of the effect, consisting of a RTDM driver
>>>and both a kernel and user space application to trigger it.
>>>
>>
>>I've spotted the issue in nucleus/shadow.c. Basically, the root thread
>>priority boost was leaking to a non-shadow thread due to a missing
>>priority reset in the lostage APC handler, whilst a shadow was in the
>>process of relaxing. Really funky bug, thanks! :o> Fixed in the repo
>>hopefully for good. The scheduling sequence is now correct with your
>>demo app on my box.
>>
>
>
> Yep, looks good here as well. Great and quick work! Just don't expect
> that someone can follow your explanations easily. :)
>
Well, sorry. Here is a more useful explanation :
The demo thread in your code calls sleep(1) before exiting, which causes the
underlying shadow thread to relax. The same would happen without sleeping, since
a terminating thread is silently relaxed by the nucleus in any case as needed.
When relaxing the current thread, xnshadow_relax() first boosts the priority of
the root thread (i.e. the placeholder for Linux in the Xenomai scheduler) right
before suspending itself. Before that, a wake up request has been scheduled
(using an APC), so that lostage_handler will be called, which will in turn
invoke wake_up_process() for the relaxing thread. This is needed because shadows
running in primary mode are seen as suspended in the Linux sense in
TASK_INTERRUPTIBLE state. The reason for this is that both Xenomai and Linux
schedulers must have a mutually exclusive control over a shadow, they should not
be allowed to both fiddle concurrently with a single thread context; conversely,
relaxed thread operating in secondary mode are seen as suspended on the XNRELAX
condition by the nucleus.
IOW, what we want to do here is some kind of transition from the Xenomai to the
Linux scheduler for the relaxing shadow thread.
This way, we make sure that the Linux scheduler will get back in control for the
awaken shadow thread, which ends up running in secondary mode once it has
been resumed by wake_up_process().
Problem is that the unless we actually reset the root thread priority to the
lowest one in lostage_handler in order to revert the priority boost done in
xnshadow_relax, there is a short window of time during which a normal Linux task
that has been preempted by the APC request that runs lostage_handler could run
and wreck the scheduling sequence (e.g. your main() context). The fix is about
downgrading the root thread priority and waking the relaxed shadow up in the
same move, so that the priority scheme is kept intact.
Now the question is: why does the root thread priority need to be upgraded while
relaxing a shadow? The answer is simple: when relaxing a shadow, you are not
expected to change tasks in a Xenomai or Linux sense, you are only changing the
Xenomai exec mode for a shadow, which means that we must ensure that giving
control back to the Linux kernel just for the purpose of changing the current
exec mode won't cause the current priority level of the relaxing thread to be
lost and spuriously downgraded to the lowest one of the system.
So we just boost it to be equal to the one of the relaxing thread; this way, the
Linux kernel code undergoes a Xenomai RT priority boost so that Linux cannot be
preempted by lower priority Xenomai threads. When a shadow thread running in
secondary mode is switched in, the root thread priority always inherits the
Xenomai priority level for that thread; conversely, when a non-Xenomai/regular
Linux task is scheduled in, the root thread priority is downgraded to the lowest
Xenomai priority.
If one thinks a bit ahead now, having this scheme in place, we should be able to
benefit from every improvement in the vanilla Linux kernel granularity toward
real-time guarantees. Because we don't break the priority scheme moving in and
out of the Linux domain, a Xenomai scheduling decision remains consistent with
the Linux priority scheme, which is a necessary condition for providing a high
integration level between Xeno and the vanilla kernel.
> I think this issue has some similarity with the one I once stumbled over
> regarding non-RT signalling to Linux. I'm not going to repeat my general
> concerns regarding the priority boosting of the root thread now... ;)
>
Each time you spot a bug like this, your stack of concerns should lose at least
one element, isn'it? :o>
Until Linux is really able to provide a fine-grained, non-disruptive and not
easily disrupted (e.g. locking semantics in drivers), and low-overhead core
implementation for RT support, Xeno will need to provide its own primary
scheduler for latency-critical duties, the seamless mode migration just
described being there to guarantee a seamless integration.
The day Linux does provide this support, we will be able to focus on the abtract
RTOS core, RT interface skins, traditional RTOS emulators, and drivers, instead
of compensating for the current lack of determinism, rebasing Xeno's scheduling
support over native tasks and the native Linux scheduler. Oh, yeah... _That_
would be a great day. But for now, we still need two cooperating schedulers for
some time ahead, I think. Sigh...
> Jan
>
--
Philippe.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-11-08 17:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-11-08 8:38 [Xenomai-core] [BUG] scheduling order of dying shadow threads Jan Kiszka
2005-11-08 9:32 ` Philippe Gerum
2005-11-08 15:51 ` Philippe Gerum
2005-11-08 16:21 ` Sebastian Smolorz
2005-11-08 16:30 ` Jan Kiszka
2005-11-08 17:47 ` Philippe Gerum [this message]
2005-11-14 12:45 ` [Xenomai-core] [BUG] rt_pipe_flush declaration missing in skins/native/pipe.h Ignacio García Pérez
2005-11-14 15:02 ` Philippe Gerum
2005-11-14 16:08 ` Ignacio García Pérez
2005-11-14 16:20 ` Philippe Gerum
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