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From: Philippe Gerum <rpm@xenomai.org>
To: "Ignacio García Pérez" <iggarpe@domain.hid>
Cc: xenomai@xenomai.org
Subject: Re: [Xenomai-core] More on rt pipes usage
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 14:24:36 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4379E194.2050202@domain.hid> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4378B824.5050708@domain.hid>

Ignacio García Pérez wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Suppose I have a kernel rt task that samples data at a certain rate and
> writes it as messages into a rt pipe, from which it is read by a user
> space non rt program.
> 
> I want to limit the number of messages that are put into the pipe,
> because otherwise if the user space program dies, it will grow endlessly
> till it exausts the rt heap.
> 
> What I want to do is to have a pipe that can hold a limited number of
> messages such that rt_pipe_write will fail if it is full.
> 
> Is there a way to know how many messages are there in the pipe?
> 
> Even if there is a way, to prevent a (harmless) race condition, I would
> need to lock the pipe between checking the number of messages and
> calling rt_pipe_write. As far as I know, pipe locking belongs to the
> nucleus and I'd like to stay in the native skin as much as possible.
> 
> Another method would be to count how many messages I write, but then I'd
> need some hook that notifies me when the user space program reads a
> message so I can decrement the count.
> 
> Any ideas?

The plan is to be able to tell the pipe manager to use a user-provided heap 
instead of the system one; this way, exhausting the local heap (*) in RT space 
would be a clear sign that non-RT must be allowed to consume the pending data 
first. A simple interface to do that is missing, but the pipe manager already 
works with a variable heap pointer.

(*) Using the overall available memory seems a better metric than the number of 
pending messages, since it may often happen that messages have different sizes.

-- 

Philippe.


  reply	other threads:[~2005-11-15 13:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-11-10 21:05 [Xenomai-help] Creation of a rt-queue from the user space ROSSIER Daniel
2005-11-11  9:30 ` [Xenomai-help] printk Ignacio García Pérez
2005-11-11 11:07   ` Dmitry Adamushko
2005-11-14 10:52     ` Ignacio García Pérez
2005-11-14 11:26       ` Philippe Gerum
2005-11-14 12:03         ` Dmitry Adamushko
2005-11-14 13:22           ` Philippe Gerum
2005-11-14 13:47             ` Philippe Gerum
2005-11-14 14:50               ` [Xenomai-core] " Dmitry Adamushko
2005-11-14 15:56                 ` [Xenomai-core] rt_pipe_* usage Ignacio García Pérez
2005-11-14 16:15                   ` [Xenomai-core] More on rt pipes usage Ignacio García Pérez
2005-11-15 13:24                     ` Philippe Gerum [this message]
2005-11-15 16:41                       ` [Xenomai-help] " Ignacio García Pérez
2005-11-14 16:23                   ` [Xenomai-core] rt_pipe_* usage Dmitry Adamushko
2005-11-14 16:36                     ` Ignacio García Pérez
2005-11-15 12:41                       ` [Xenomai-core] Web site error (API doc search) Ignacio García Pérez
2005-11-15 13:16                       ` [Xenomai-core] rt_pipe_* usage Philippe Gerum
2005-11-15 16:22                         ` Ignacio García Pérez
2005-11-16  5:38                           ` Philippe Gerum
2005-11-15  9:38                 ` [Xenomai-core] Re: [Xenomai-help] printk Philippe Gerum
2005-11-15 10:00                   ` Dmitry Adamushko
2005-11-16 12:58                     ` Philippe Gerum
2005-11-16 14:44                       ` Dmitry Adamushko
2005-11-17  9:44                       ` [Xenomai-help] Blocking reads from pipes Ignacio García Pérez
2005-11-17 10:21                         ` Romain Lenglet
2005-11-17 13:16                           ` Ignacio García Pérez
2005-11-17 15:11                             ` Dmitry Adamushko
2005-11-17 17:24                               ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2005-11-17 17:55                                 ` [Xenomai-core] " Dmitry Adamushko
2005-11-17 19:17                                   ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2005-11-17 19:45                                     ` Dmitry Adamushko
2005-11-18  8:57                                       ` Ignacio García Pérez
2005-11-18  9:10                                         ` Dmitry Adamushko
2005-11-17 19:40                                 ` Dmitry Adamushko
2005-11-17 10:46                         ` Dmitry Adamushko
2005-11-14 12:15       ` [Xenomai-help] xn_pipe_create [minor] Ignacio García Pérez
2005-11-14 13:53         ` Dmitry Adamushko
2005-11-14 16:28           ` Ignacio García Pérez
2005-11-14 16:29             ` Philippe Gerum
2005-11-14 16:41               ` Ignacio García Pérez
2005-11-14 16:52                 ` Dmitry Adamushko
2005-11-14 17:38                   ` Philippe Gerum
2005-11-14 18:33                     ` Dmitry Adamushko
2005-11-15  8:04                       ` Philippe Gerum
2005-11-14 18:03                   ` [Xenomai-help] Strange pipe behaviour Ignacio García Pérez
2005-11-16  5:45                     ` Philippe Gerum
2005-11-16  7:45                       ` Ignacio García Pérez
2005-11-16 11:45                         ` Philippe Gerum
2005-11-14 16:40             ` [Xenomai-help] xn_pipe_create [minor] Dmitry Adamushko
2005-11-12 19:45   ` [Xenomai-help] printk Philippe Gerum
2005-11-14 10:47   ` [Xenomai-help] Invalid characters in task's names Ignacio García Pérez
2005-11-14 11:39     ` Philippe Gerum
2005-11-11 14:08 ` [Xenomai-help] Creation of a rt-queue from the user space Jan Kiszka

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