From: Philippe Gerum <rpm@xenomai.org>
To: "Ignacio García Pérez" <iggarpe@domain.hid>
Cc: xenomai@xenomai.org
Subject: Re: [Xenomai-core] More on rt pipes usage
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 14:24:36 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4379E194.2050202@domain.hid> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4378B824.5050708@domain.hid>
Ignacio García Pérez wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Suppose I have a kernel rt task that samples data at a certain rate and
> writes it as messages into a rt pipe, from which it is read by a user
> space non rt program.
>
> I want to limit the number of messages that are put into the pipe,
> because otherwise if the user space program dies, it will grow endlessly
> till it exausts the rt heap.
>
> What I want to do is to have a pipe that can hold a limited number of
> messages such that rt_pipe_write will fail if it is full.
>
> Is there a way to know how many messages are there in the pipe?
>
> Even if there is a way, to prevent a (harmless) race condition, I would
> need to lock the pipe between checking the number of messages and
> calling rt_pipe_write. As far as I know, pipe locking belongs to the
> nucleus and I'd like to stay in the native skin as much as possible.
>
> Another method would be to count how many messages I write, but then I'd
> need some hook that notifies me when the user space program reads a
> message so I can decrement the count.
>
> Any ideas?
The plan is to be able to tell the pipe manager to use a user-provided heap
instead of the system one; this way, exhausting the local heap (*) in RT space
would be a clear sign that non-RT must be allowed to consume the pending data
first. A simple interface to do that is missing, but the pipe manager already
works with a variable heap pointer.
(*) Using the overall available memory seems a better metric than the number of
pending messages, since it may often happen that messages have different sizes.
--
Philippe.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-11-15 13:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-11-10 21:05 [Xenomai-help] Creation of a rt-queue from the user space ROSSIER Daniel
2005-11-11 9:30 ` [Xenomai-help] printk Ignacio García Pérez
2005-11-11 11:07 ` Dmitry Adamushko
2005-11-14 10:52 ` Ignacio García Pérez
2005-11-14 11:26 ` Philippe Gerum
2005-11-14 12:03 ` Dmitry Adamushko
2005-11-14 13:22 ` Philippe Gerum
2005-11-14 13:47 ` Philippe Gerum
2005-11-14 14:50 ` [Xenomai-core] " Dmitry Adamushko
2005-11-14 15:56 ` [Xenomai-core] rt_pipe_* usage Ignacio García Pérez
2005-11-14 16:15 ` [Xenomai-core] More on rt pipes usage Ignacio García Pérez
2005-11-15 13:24 ` Philippe Gerum [this message]
2005-11-15 16:41 ` [Xenomai-help] " Ignacio García Pérez
2005-11-14 16:23 ` [Xenomai-core] rt_pipe_* usage Dmitry Adamushko
2005-11-14 16:36 ` Ignacio García Pérez
2005-11-15 12:41 ` [Xenomai-core] Web site error (API doc search) Ignacio García Pérez
2005-11-15 13:16 ` [Xenomai-core] rt_pipe_* usage Philippe Gerum
2005-11-15 16:22 ` Ignacio García Pérez
2005-11-16 5:38 ` Philippe Gerum
2005-11-15 9:38 ` [Xenomai-core] Re: [Xenomai-help] printk Philippe Gerum
2005-11-15 10:00 ` Dmitry Adamushko
2005-11-16 12:58 ` Philippe Gerum
2005-11-16 14:44 ` Dmitry Adamushko
2005-11-17 9:44 ` [Xenomai-help] Blocking reads from pipes Ignacio García Pérez
2005-11-17 10:21 ` Romain Lenglet
2005-11-17 13:16 ` Ignacio García Pérez
2005-11-17 15:11 ` Dmitry Adamushko
2005-11-17 17:24 ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2005-11-17 17:55 ` [Xenomai-core] " Dmitry Adamushko
2005-11-17 19:17 ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2005-11-17 19:45 ` Dmitry Adamushko
2005-11-18 8:57 ` Ignacio García Pérez
2005-11-18 9:10 ` Dmitry Adamushko
2005-11-17 19:40 ` Dmitry Adamushko
2005-11-17 10:46 ` Dmitry Adamushko
2005-11-14 12:15 ` [Xenomai-help] xn_pipe_create [minor] Ignacio García Pérez
2005-11-14 13:53 ` Dmitry Adamushko
2005-11-14 16:28 ` Ignacio García Pérez
2005-11-14 16:29 ` Philippe Gerum
2005-11-14 16:41 ` Ignacio García Pérez
2005-11-14 16:52 ` Dmitry Adamushko
2005-11-14 17:38 ` Philippe Gerum
2005-11-14 18:33 ` Dmitry Adamushko
2005-11-15 8:04 ` Philippe Gerum
2005-11-14 18:03 ` [Xenomai-help] Strange pipe behaviour Ignacio García Pérez
2005-11-16 5:45 ` Philippe Gerum
2005-11-16 7:45 ` Ignacio García Pérez
2005-11-16 11:45 ` Philippe Gerum
2005-11-14 16:40 ` [Xenomai-help] xn_pipe_create [minor] Dmitry Adamushko
2005-11-12 19:45 ` [Xenomai-help] printk Philippe Gerum
2005-11-14 10:47 ` [Xenomai-help] Invalid characters in task's names Ignacio García Pérez
2005-11-14 11:39 ` Philippe Gerum
2005-11-11 14:08 ` [Xenomai-help] Creation of a rt-queue from the user space Jan Kiszka
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