From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>
Cc: Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>,
Ismail Donmez <ismail@uludag.org.tr>,
git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Rss produced by git is not valid xml?
Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 10:28:11 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4380C03B.9090603@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0511190101590.28126@wbgn013.biozentrum.uni-wuerzburg.de>
Johannes Schindelin wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Fri, 18 Nov 2005, Kay Sievers wrote:
>
>
>>Yes, convince the git maintainers, that it's incredibly stupid not to
>>enforce utf8 in commit messages. It makes absolutely zero sense in a
>>SCM, which merges forth and back between people around the world to
>>allow random encodings from the last century.
>
>
> Oh, but it makes sense! Just because you happen to work on a very
> international project does not mean everybody does.
>
> Just because you happen to like utf-8 does not mean that you still do in
> 2046. The encoding-du-jour might well be a 64-bit wide char code by then,
> since they'll laugh about our dreaming about terabytes.
>
> BTW, utf-8 was designed on purpose to be easily distinguishable from other
> encodings so that you don't have to rely on every document obeying a
> certain encoding.
>
No, it wasn't. It was designated on purpose to be ASCII-compatible,
substring-safe, and minimally stateful.
Furthermore, it's extensible. Although the original UTF-8 is limited to
31 bits, and the officially published UTF-8 is further crippled to 21
bits by Mirco$oft cronies who wanted it to be brainfuck-compatible with
UTF-16, it could easily be extended to 64 bits or beyond.
I think it's *definitely* safe to say that whatever encoding we'll use
in 2046, current UTF-8 will be a subset. If you don't believe me,
consider how long we've had ASCII and the first of the design criteria
for UTF-8 that I listed in the first paragraph.
-hpa
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-11-20 18:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-11-18 16:33 Rss produced by git is not valid xml? Ismail Donmez
2005-11-18 17:26 ` Ismail Donmez
2005-11-18 19:27 ` Ismail Donmez
2005-11-18 20:02 ` Kay Sievers
2005-11-18 20:08 ` Ismail Donmez
2005-11-18 20:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-18 20:28 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-11-18 20:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-18 20:55 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-11-18 20:51 ` Josef Weidendorfer
2005-11-18 21:01 ` Kay Sievers
2005-11-18 20:45 ` Ismail Donmez
2005-11-18 21:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-18 21:22 ` Ismail Donmez
2005-11-18 21:25 ` Junio C Hamano
2005-11-18 21:29 ` Ismail Donmez
2005-11-19 8:48 ` Junio C Hamano
2005-11-18 20:55 ` Kay Sievers
2005-11-18 21:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-18 21:33 ` Ismail Donmez
2005-11-18 21:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-18 22:12 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-11-18 23:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-18 23:34 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-11-18 23:53 ` Andreas Ericsson
2005-11-19 1:22 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-11-19 8:49 ` Andreas Ericsson
2005-11-19 10:58 ` Johannes Schindelin
2005-11-18 23:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-18 23:58 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-11-19 0:29 ` Johannes Schindelin
2005-11-18 23:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-19 0:34 ` Johannes Schindelin
2005-11-19 0:37 ` Junio C Hamano
2005-11-19 1:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-19 10:31 ` Junio C Hamano
2005-11-19 17:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-20 1:16 ` Johannes Schindelin
2005-11-20 3:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-20 4:13 ` Johannes Schindelin
[not found] ` <20051127025249.GA12286@vrfy.org>
2005-11-27 3:57 ` Junio C Hamano
2005-11-27 4:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-28 0:39 ` [PATCH 2/3] mailinfo: allow -u to fall back on latin1 to utf8 conversion Junio C Hamano
2005-11-28 6:32 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-11-28 9:21 ` Junio C Hamano
2005-11-27 16:18 ` Rss produced by git is not valid xml? Kay Sievers
2005-11-19 0:04 ` Johannes Schindelin
2005-11-20 18:28 ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2005-11-21 8:38 ` Johannes Schindelin
2005-11-21 9:28 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-11-19 3:28 ` Junio C Hamano
2005-11-19 4:35 ` H. Peter Anvin
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-11-19 6:31 Marco Costalba
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