From: Joshua Brindle <jbrindle@tresys.com>
To: Ivan Gyurdiev <ivg2@cornell.edu>
Cc: selinux@tycho.nsa.gov, Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>
Subject: Re: [SEPOL] Remove defrole from sepol
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 16:58:14 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4384E5F6.5000208@tresys.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4384C873.20904@cornell.edu>
Ivan Gyurdiev wrote:
>
>>> I'm starting to question the need for this interface at all... it's
>>> an interface for a very narrow user base - genhomedircon... which is
>>> probably a mistake. I would prefer genhomedircon to find its way into
>>> libsemanage, which is its only user (does it have another one?).
>>
>> the semanage tool Dan is writing could use it, to determine if a level
>> should be set, or it could just rely on getting an error back if you
>> try to set a level and it is a non mls system.
>
> I'm confused... it needs genhomedircon, and not the library?
>
>>> there would be no reason for an external interface for default roles
>>> and hacks to move genhomedircon before one lock is released, and
>>> after the other is released, and things like that would not be
>>> necessary.
>>
>> genhomedircon is a reader, it is using resources outside of the module
>> store and is not confined to the sandbox. I don't know that it should
>> be inside the transaction.
>
> Readers should be inside the transaction to guard against race
> condition. You mentioned commit numbers, and I pointed out I don't use
> them yet - and I don't see how they're a win over using a transaction.
>
Copying the whole store to read a boolean is pretty bad. If the user
(app) intends to make a modification they can start a transaction before
querying, to ensure consistency but a standard reader should not need
to do this. Why copy a whole directory over to do 2 queries when
genhomedircon can just compare 2 numbers?
>>> Genhomedircon encapsulates an implementation detail of user/seuser
>>> updates. Is there another reason for it being outside libsemanage,
>>> other than python being easy to work with?
>>>
>> Mainly that its already done and works. We really do have higher
>> priority things than reimplementing genhomedircon in C to put in
>> libsemanage.
>
> Maybe... unless it results in libsemanage APIs that are going to be
> removed later. What's your opinion of what this API should look like -
> opaque object that can be expanded for other data (aux_info), or prefix
> only? How would system vs local work - see other questions in the thread.
>
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-11-23 21:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-11-19 5:50 [SEPOL] Remove defrole from sepol Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-11-21 12:37 ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-11-23 11:28 ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-11-23 15:32 ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-11-23 16:38 ` Joshua Brindle
2005-11-23 19:52 ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-11-23 19:46 ` Joshua Brindle
2005-11-23 20:22 ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-11-23 20:57 ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-11-23 21:40 ` Joshua Brindle
2005-11-23 21:58 ` Joshua Brindle [this message]
2005-11-23 22:35 ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-11-25 15:46 ` Joshua Brindle
2005-11-28 19:27 ` Stephen Smalley
2005-11-28 21:22 ` Ivan Gyurdiev
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