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From: Vitaly Wool <vwool@ru.mvista.com>
To: Mark Underwood <basicmark@yahoo.com>
Cc: vitalhome@rbcmail.ru, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	dpervushin@gmail.com, david-b@pacbell.net, akpm@osdl.org,
	komal_shah802003@yahoo.com, stephen@streetfiresound.com,
	spi-devel-general@lists.sourceforge.net, Joachim_Jaeger@digi.com
Subject: Re: [spi-devel-general] Re: [PATCH 2.6-git] SPI core refresh
Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2005 22:19:58 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4391EFDE.3000102@ru.mvista.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20051203171037.94369.qmail@web36914.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Mark Underwood wrote:

>--- vitalhome@rbcmail.ru wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Mark,
>>
>>    
>>
>>>>>I still do not see why you are stating this.  Why do you say this?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>Due to possible priority inversion problems in David's core.
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>Which you still haven't proven, in fact you now seem to be changing your mind and saying 
>>>that
>>>there might be a problem if an adapter driver was implemented badly although I still 
>>>don't see how
>>>this could happen (the priority inversion I mean not the badly implemented driver ;).
>>>      
>>>
>>Truly admiring your deep understanding of the real-time technology, I should remind you 
>>that within the real-time conditions almost each event may happen and may not happen, for 
>>instance, two calls from different context to the same funtion may happen at the same or 
>>almost the same time, and may not happen that way. Therefore I used the word "possible". 
>>Hope I clarified that a bit for you.
>>
>>Please also see my previous emails for the explanation of how priority inversion can 
>>happen. This is not gonna be a rare case, BTW.
>>    
>>
>
>Vitaly, 
> 
>First, please can you not change the CC list in the midle of a thread.
>
Yeah, sorry for that. You see, I was emailing not from my computer.

> 
>OK, looking through the code after a cup of coffe I can see the problem you are pointing out,
>thank you :), for some reason I thought that that code was protected by a spin_lock :/. 
> 
>How to fix this? 
> 
>David, how would you feel about adding a NOT_DMAABLE flag in the spi_message structure? This
>helper routine could then use this thus solving the one buffer to many callers problem (well
>moving into the adapter driver, but as that serialise's transfers anyway I think this would remove
>the priority inversion problem, Vitaly?) 
> 
>The other solution is to do a kmalloc for each caller (would could try to be smart and only do
>that if the buffer is being used). 
>  
>
And each one of the techniques suggested will make David's core closer 
to ours :)

Vitaly

  reply	other threads:[~2005-12-03 19:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-12-03 11:49 [PATCH 2.6-git] SPI core refresh vitalhome
2005-12-03 17:10 ` Mark Underwood
2005-12-03 19:19   ` Vitaly Wool [this message]
2005-12-03 23:50   ` David Brownell
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-12-01 16:11 Vitaly Wool
2005-12-08  1:59 ` David Brownell
2005-12-08  6:33   ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-09 22:55     ` David Brownell
2005-12-11 12:36       ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-11 17:03         ` [spi-devel-general] " Vitaly Wool
2005-12-11 20:17           ` David Brownell
2005-12-11 22:13             ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-11 23:54               ` David Brownell
2005-12-12  7:09                 ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-11 22:15             ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-11 22:18             ` Vitaly Wool

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