From: Xose Vazquez Perez <xose.vazquez@gmail.com>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, jmerkey@wolfmountaingroup.com
Subject: Re: RFC: Starting a stable kernel series off the 2.6 kernel
Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2005 12:37:33 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4392D4FD.3070402@gmail.com> (raw)
Jeff V. Merkey wrote:
> These folks have nothing new to innovate here. The memory manager and VM
> gets revamped every other release. Exports get broken, binary only
> module compatibility busted every rev of the kernel. I spend weeks on
> each kernel fixing the breakage. These people don't get it, don't care,
> and to be honest, you are wasting your time here trying to convince
> them. It's never stable because they don't want it to be. This is how
> they maintain control
> of this code. I have apps written for Windows in 1990 and 1998 that
> still run on Windows XP today. Linux has no such concept of
> backwards compatiblity. Every company who has embraced it outside of
> hardware based solutions is dying or has died. IBM is secretly
> forking it as we speak and using it to get out of paying for Unix licenses.
> As annoying as it is, accept it and live with it. These people have no
> sense of loyalty to you or your customers. They don't even care about
> each other.
Linux is _only_ a kernel, not a complete OS. And in a very big development
process [1].
If you want a complete OS get Fedora, openSUSE, Debian, etc. And if you need
longer life time, support, certifications get SLES or RHEL.
Btw, latest Coverity reports [2] shows things are getting better and the
main root of bugs are _drivers_ (53%), and far away filesystems(18%) and
inside net(15%).
[1] http://www.zip.com.au/~akpm/x.jpg
[2] http://www.coverity.com/forms/register.php?continue[]=open_source
--
Romanes eunt domus
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2005-12-06 4:18 RFC: Starting a stable kernel series off the 2.6 kernel John Kelly
2005-12-06 13:27 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2005-12-06 18:21 ` John Kelly
2005-12-06 22:55 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
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2005-12-05 10:55 ` Marcus Meissner
2005-12-03 13:56 Adrian Bunk
2005-12-03 14:29 ` Jesper Juhl
2005-12-03 20:19 ` Greg KH
2005-12-03 21:04 ` M.
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2005-12-03 21:12 ` Greg KH
2005-12-03 21:31 ` M.
2005-12-03 21:38 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-03 21:53 ` M.
2005-12-03 22:26 ` Greg KH
2005-12-04 7:56 ` Arjan van de Ven
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2005-12-04 15:10 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-04 16:11 ` Matthias Andree
2005-12-04 16:41 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-04 20:08 ` Paul Jackson
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2005-12-04 22:47 ` Greg KH
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2005-12-04 23:12 ` Greg KH
2005-12-05 1:03 ` Horst von Brand
2005-12-05 19:35 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-12-03 21:54 ` Greg KH
2005-12-06 1:19 ` Florian Weimer
2005-12-06 17:55 ` Greg KH
2005-12-03 22:51 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-03 23:28 ` Greg KH
2005-12-03 23:35 ` Chris Wright
2005-12-06 0:37 ` Rob Landley
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2005-12-04 8:07 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-05 20:33 ` Florian Weimer
2005-12-06 1:10 ` Horst von Brand
2005-12-06 10:46 ` Matthias Andree
2005-12-06 14:01 ` Florian Weimer
2005-12-06 16:52 ` Gene Heskett
2005-12-04 3:48 ` Jesper Juhl
2005-12-04 11:56 ` Matthias Andree
2005-12-04 23:24 ` Greg KH
2005-12-05 6:26 ` Willy Tarreau
2005-12-05 10:00 ` Matthias Andree
2005-12-05 10:55 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
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2005-12-05 11:40 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2005-12-05 12:01 ` Willy Tarreau
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2005-12-05 12:26 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-06 17:54 ` Greg KH
2005-12-06 18:57 ` John Kelly
2005-12-06 21:55 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-06 22:40 ` John Kelly
2005-12-05 18:51 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-06 17:50 ` Greg KH
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2005-12-06 17:47 ` Greg KH
2005-12-06 23:27 ` David S. Miller
2005-12-06 19:01 ` Lee Revell
2005-12-04 17:00 ` Jakob Oestergaard
2005-12-04 22:39 ` Greg KH
2005-12-05 15:17 ` Jakob Oestergaard
2005-12-05 15:44 ` Pekka Enberg
2005-12-05 17:17 ` Jakob Oestergaard
2005-12-06 17:44 ` Greg KH
2005-12-06 21:16 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-12-07 14:38 ` Massimiliano Hofer
2005-12-07 16:05 ` Horst von Brand
2005-12-07 16:29 ` Massimiliano Hofer
2005-12-05 14:48 ` Florian Weimer
2005-12-06 17:46 ` Greg KH
2005-12-03 14:31 ` Ben Collins
2005-12-03 19:35 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-03 19:57 ` Lee Revell
2005-12-03 21:04 ` M.
2005-12-03 22:58 ` Matthias Andree
2005-12-03 23:49 ` Lee Revell
2005-12-05 21:05 ` Florian Weimer
2005-12-05 21:41 ` Lee Revell
2005-12-05 23:00 ` Florian Weimer
2005-12-05 23:06 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2005-12-06 0:08 ` Florian Weimer
2005-12-05 21:00 ` Florian Weimer
2005-12-05 21:06 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-06 0:43 ` Florian Weimer
2005-12-06 11:21 ` Matthias Andree
2005-12-06 15:10 ` Florian Weimer
2005-12-06 16:45 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-12-07 11:29 ` Matthias Andree
2005-12-07 13:54 ` Horst von Brand
2005-12-08 3:29 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-12-08 8:29 ` Matthias Andree
2005-12-10 0:22 ` Rob Landley
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2005-12-05 23:03 ` Bill Davidsen
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2005-12-06 11:23 ` Matthias Andree
2005-12-06 19:48 ` Bill Davidsen
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2005-12-03 22:27 ` Matthias Andree
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2005-12-04 23:22 ` Greg KH
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2005-12-06 0:34 ` Rob Landley
2005-12-06 10:34 ` Luke-Jr
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2005-12-10 2:16 ` Rob Landley
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2005-12-05 22:47 ` Rob Landley
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2005-12-06 10:51 ` Matthias Andree
2005-12-06 3:15 ` Greg KH
2005-12-06 3:23 ` Rob Landley
2005-12-03 22:36 ` David Ranson
2005-12-03 22:50 ` Matthias Andree
2005-12-06 14:59 ` Bill Davidsen
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2005-12-06 20:01 ` Bill Davidsen
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2005-12-05 3:31 ` Rob Landley
2005-12-05 16:17 ` Mark Lord
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2005-12-05 16:44 ` Matthias Andree
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2005-12-05 17:55 ` Matthias Andree
2005-12-05 20:52 ` Florian Weimer
2005-12-05 21:21 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-12-05 23:09 ` Rob Landley
2005-12-06 0:54 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-12-06 1:10 ` Florian Weimer
2005-12-06 1:26 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-12-06 18:06 ` Horst von Brand
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2005-12-06 1:06 ` Florian Weimer
2005-12-06 11:09 ` Matthias Andree
2005-12-05 17:58 ` Rob Landley
2005-12-06 18:51 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-12-07 15:48 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-07 18:40 ` Horst von Brand
2005-12-07 18:14 ` Rob Landley
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2005-12-05 21:22 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-12-06 14:59 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-12-05 18:44 ` Adrian Bunk
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2005-12-04 3:32 ` Mark Lord
2005-12-03 22:21 ` Matthias Andree
2005-12-03 22:29 ` Greg KH
2005-12-03 22:41 ` Matthias Andree
2005-12-03 22:48 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-12-03 17:22 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-03 17:35 ` M.
2005-12-03 23:05 ` Matthias Andree
2005-12-03 23:37 ` Greg KH
2005-12-04 0:52 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2005-12-04 12:12 ` Matthias Andree
2005-12-04 12:32 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-04 13:28 ` Matthias Andree
2005-12-04 13:35 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-04 14:25 ` Matthias Andree
2005-12-04 14:50 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-04 15:08 ` Matthias Andree
2005-12-04 15:11 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-04 15:36 ` Andreas Schwab
2005-12-04 16:17 ` Matthias Andree
2005-12-05 3:09 ` Joel Becker
2005-12-06 20:13 ` Alan Cox
2005-12-04 15:20 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-04 16:23 ` Matthias Andree
2005-12-04 15:25 ` Richard Knutsson
2005-12-04 15:23 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-05 23:51 ` Rob Landley
2005-12-06 20:40 ` Matan Peled
2005-12-04 19:57 ` Horst von Brand
2005-12-04 21:35 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2005-12-05 0:43 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2005-12-05 9:06 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2005-12-06 0:41 ` Horst von Brand
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2005-12-05 3:23 ` Rob Landley
2005-12-10 19:48 ` Ryan Anderson
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2005-12-03 20:59 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2005-12-03 21:13 ` Dave Jones
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2005-12-03 23:09 ` Dave Jones
2005-12-06 0:14 ` Florian Weimer
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