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From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
To: Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>
Cc: Jiri Benc <jbenc@suse.cz>, Joseph Jezak <josejx@gentoo.org>,
	mbuesch@freenet.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	bcm43xx-dev@lists.berlios.de, NetDev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Broadcom 43xx first results
Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 15:09:19 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <43949E6F.9050408@pobox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20051205195329.GB19964@redhat.com>

Dave Jones wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 05, 2005 at 02:08:28PM -0500, Jeff Garzik wrote:
>  > Jiri Benc wrote:
>  > >On Mon, 05 Dec 2005 13:38:37 -0500, Joseph Jezak wrote:
>  > >
>  > >>We're not writing an entire stack.  We're writing a layer that sits in 
>  > >>between the current ieee80211 stack that's already present in the kernel 
>  > >>and drivers that do not have a hardware MAC.  Since ieee80211 is already 
>  > >>in use in the kernel today, this seemed like a natural and useful 
>  > >>extension to the existing code.  I agree that it's somewhat wasteful to 
>  > >>keep rewriting 802.11 stacks and we considered other options, but it 
>  > >>seemed like a more logical choice to work with what was available and 
>  > >>recommended than to use an external stack.
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >Unfortunately, the only long-term solution is to rewrite completely the
>  > >current in-kernel ieee80211 code (I would not call it a "stack") or
>  > >replace it with something another. The current code was written for
>  > >Intel devices and it doesn't support anything else - so every developer
>  > 
>  > Patently false.
>  > 
>  > ieee80211 is used by Intel.  Some bits used by HostAP, which also 
>  > duplicates a lot of ieee80211 code.  And bcm43xx.  And another couple 
>  > drivers found in -mm or out-of-tree.
> 
> Orinoco also uses it now no ?

Just the headers, really.

	Jeff




  reply	other threads:[~2005-12-05 20:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-12-04 18:50 Broadcom 43xx first results mbuesch
2005-12-04 19:52 ` [Bcm43xx-dev] " Feyd
2005-12-04 19:58   ` Michael Buesch
2005-12-05  5:50     ` Jouni Malinen
2005-12-05  6:05       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-12-05 11:08       ` Michael Buesch
2005-12-05 14:19         ` Jouni Malinen
2005-12-05 14:28           ` Michael Buesch
2005-12-05 14:41             ` Jouni Malinen
2005-12-05 18:52             ` Jeff Garzik
2005-12-05 19:20               ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-12-05 18:00 ` Jiri Benc
2005-12-05 18:14   ` Michael Renzmann
2005-12-05 18:24     ` Stephen Hemminger
2005-12-05 18:46     ` Jeff Garzik
2005-12-05 18:49       ` Jiri Benc
2005-12-05 18:54         ` Jeff Garzik
2005-12-05 19:11           ` Jiri Benc
2005-12-30 10:34             ` Rakotomandimby Mihamina
2005-12-06  7:17       ` Michael Renzmann
2005-12-05 18:38   ` Joseph Jezak
2005-12-05 18:38     ` Joseph Jezak
2005-12-05 18:55     ` Jiri Benc
2005-12-05 19:08       ` Jeff Garzik
2005-12-05 19:18         ` Jiri Benc
2005-12-05 19:53         ` Dave Jones
2005-12-05 20:09           ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2005-12-06 15:10           ` Harald Welte
2005-12-06 19:05             ` Jeff Garzik
2005-12-06 20:53               ` Stephen Hemminger
2005-12-07  7:16               ` Harald Welte
2005-12-06 23:19             ` David S. Miller
2005-12-06 23:45               ` Jeff Garzik
2005-12-07 13:34               ` Michael Buesch
2005-12-08 11:32                 ` Jiri Benc
2005-12-08 12:07         ` Jiri Benc
2005-12-08 12:12           ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-08 13:03             ` Jiri Benc
2005-12-05 19:10       ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-12-05 19:31         ` Jiri Benc
2005-12-05 19:41           ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-12-05 20:11             ` Jiri Benc
2005-12-06 15:09               ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-06 16:43                 ` Ben Greear
2005-12-06 23:25                   ` David S. Miller
2005-12-06 19:24                 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-12-06 15:04           ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-08  0:00           ` Michael Wu
2005-12-08  1:05             ` Jeff Garzik
2005-12-05 20:23   ` Michael Buesch
2005-12-05 20:23     ` Michael Buesch
2005-12-05 20:42     ` Jiri Benc
2005-12-06  9:26       ` Kyle Moffett
2005-12-06 10:23         ` Luc Saillard
2005-12-05 19:40 ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-05 20:14   ` Michael Buesch
2005-12-05 20:35     ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-05 20:40       ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-05 20:40       ` Michael Buesch
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-12-06 22:47 Jean Tourrilhes
2005-12-07  7:11 ` Jouni Malinen
2005-12-07 19:16   ` Jean Tourrilhes
2005-12-07 19:47     ` Jouni Malinen
2005-12-07 19:05 ` Jean Tourrilhes

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