All of lore.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@mellanox.co.il>
Cc: Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>,
	Gleb Natapov <gleb@minantech.com>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Petr Vandrovec <vandrove@vc.cvut.cz>,
	Badari Pulavarty <pbadari@us.ibm.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: set_page_dirty vs set_page_dirty_lock
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 20:23:10 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <439D417E.903@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20051212085532.GW14936@mellanox.co.il>

Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:

> 
> FWIW, I think that copy_to_user will work correctly since it keeps the mmap
> semaphore for the duration of the copy.

Oh, true.

> Direct-io might have the same problem.
> 
> 
>>As such, I don't think it would be something you in particular need to
>>worry about.
>>
>>I guess to solve it, we could either retain mmap_sem for the duration to
>>prevent fork,
> 
> 
> Since this is the receive side, the DMA can take an indefinite
> time to arrive. Isnt this a problem if we keep the mmap_sem?
> 

Well... it goes against our usual stance of trying to push
these kinds of synchronisation issues to userspace.

In a way, you're doing direct-io from the network and so it is
perhaps reasonable to expect the racy semantics that O_DIRECT
has. OTOH, if you are providing the same API on a different
device, then basically by definition you need to provide the
exact same semantics.

> 
>>or try to do something tricky with page_count to determine
>>if we need to do a copy in fork() rather than a COW.
> 
> 
> I'm actually reasonably happy with the trick that I'm using:
> performing a second get_user_pages after DMA and comparing
> the page lists.
> However, doing this every time on the off chance that a
> page was made COW forces me into task context, every time.
> 

I think it might be possible to solve it with the early-copy in
fork(). I'll tinker with it.

-- 
SUSE Labs, Novell Inc.

Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com 

  reply	other threads:[~2005-12-12  9:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-12-08 19:09 set_page_dirty vs set_page_dirty_lock Michael S. Tsirkin
2005-12-08 19:19 ` Hugh Dickins
2005-12-08 19:29   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2005-12-08 19:54   ` Jens Axboe
2005-12-08 21:56   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2005-12-12  3:28     ` Nick Piggin
2005-12-12  6:35       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2005-12-12  7:10         ` Nick Piggin
2005-12-12  8:14           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2005-12-12  8:32             ` Nick Piggin
2005-12-12  8:55               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2005-12-12  9:23                 ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2005-12-12  9:59                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2005-12-13 21:07                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=439D417E.903@yahoo.com.au \
    --to=nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au \
    --cc=benh@kernel.crashing.org \
    --cc=gleb@minantech.com \
    --cc=hugh@veritas.com \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=mst@mellanox.co.il \
    --cc=pbadari@us.ibm.com \
    --cc=vandrove@vc.cvut.cz \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.