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From: Steve deRosier <derosier@pianodisc.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Cc: James Courtier-Dutton <James@superbug.co.uk>,
	Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>, Sergey Vlasov <vsu@altlinux.ru>,
	Ricardo Cerqueira <v4l@cerqueira.org>,
	mchehab@brturbo.com.br,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	video4linux-list@redhat.com, perex@suse.cz,
	alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
Subject: Re: [Alsa-devel] 2.6.15-rc6: boot failure in saa7134-alsa.c
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 08:58:55 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <43A989CF.3000901@pianodisc.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0512201248481.4827@g5.osdl.org>

Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> I thought more people knew about all this. Forcing (or even just 
> encouraging) people to use loadable modules is just horrible. I personally 
> run a kernel with no modules at all: it makes for a simpler bootup, and in 
> some situations (embedded) it has both security and size advantages.
> 

Linus,

I'm glad you said that and I have to second that opinion.  

On our current product, we compile everything we need into the kernel; we don't use Alsa as modules at all.  Our system is "embedded" as far as the user is concerned (though in many ways is just a general purpose computer running a custom stripped down distribution), and the monolithic kernel is critical to our boot speed (under 1 minute till all services are running) and filesystem size.  

In addition, it makes maintenance and porting much easier: Step 1 - reconfigure and recompile the kernel; Step 2 - put bzImage in our update tarball.  Easy.  I can't imagine what a pain it would be to have to "install" the modules in our filesystem image.

Thankfully, we've never had to deal with this sort of failure; all of our Alsa drivers and services have been well behaved (mostly).

- Steve

  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-12-21 16:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-12-19  0:47 Linux 2.6.15-rc6 Linus Torvalds
2005-12-19  1:30 ` Diego Calleja
2005-12-19  5:41   ` Willy Tarreau
2005-12-20 13:18 ` 2.6.15-rc6: boot failure in saa7134-alsa.c Adrian Bunk
2005-12-20 13:18 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-20 15:52   ` Sergey Vlasov
2005-12-20 15:52   ` [Alsa-devel] " Sergey Vlasov
2005-12-20 18:24     ` Linus Torvalds
2005-12-20 18:24     ` [Alsa-devel] " Linus Torvalds
     [not found]       ` <20051220183455.GC19797@master.mivlgu.local>
2005-12-20 18:57         ` Linus Torvalds
2005-12-20 18:57         ` [Alsa-devel] " Linus Torvalds
2005-12-20 19:14       ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-20 19:23         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2005-12-20 19:59         ` Linus Torvalds
2005-12-20 19:59           ` [Alsa-devel] " Linus Torvalds
2005-12-20 20:23           ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-20 20:23           ` [Alsa-devel] " Adrian Bunk
2005-12-20 20:41             ` Linus Torvalds
2005-12-20 20:41               ` [Alsa-devel] " Linus Torvalds
2005-12-20 20:47               ` James Courtier-Dutton
2005-12-20 20:47               ` [Alsa-devel] " James Courtier-Dutton
2005-12-20 21:06                 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-12-20 21:06                 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-12-20 21:13                 ` [RFC: 2.6 patch] Makefile: sound/ must come before drivers/ Adrian Bunk
2005-12-20 21:24                   ` [Alsa-devel] " Jaroslav Kysela
2005-12-20 21:24                   ` Jaroslav Kysela
2005-12-20 22:09                   ` Linus Torvalds
2005-12-20 22:09                     ` Linus Torvalds
2005-12-21 14:21                     ` Takashi Iwai
2005-12-21 14:21                       ` Takashi Iwai
2005-12-21 20:49                       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2005-12-22 15:32                         ` Takashi Iwai
2005-12-22 16:06                           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2005-12-22 16:06                           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2005-12-22 16:17                             ` Takashi Iwai
2005-12-22 16:38                               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2005-12-22 16:17                             ` Takashi Iwai
2005-12-22 15:32                         ` Takashi Iwai
2005-12-20 21:13                 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-21 14:23             ` 2.6.15-rc6: boot failure in saa7134-alsa.c Takashi Iwai
2005-12-21 14:23             ` [Alsa-devel] " Takashi Iwai
2005-12-21 18:22               ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-21 18:22                 ` [Alsa-devel] " Adrian Bunk
2005-12-21 18:38                 ` Takashi Iwai
2005-12-21 18:38                   ` [Alsa-devel] " Takashi Iwai
2005-12-21 22:40                   ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-22 11:39                     ` Takashi Iwai
2005-12-22 11:39                     ` [Alsa-devel] " Takashi Iwai
2005-12-21 22:40                   ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-20 20:35           ` James Courtier-Dutton
2005-12-20 20:35             ` [Alsa-devel] " James Courtier-Dutton
2005-12-20 21:03             ` Linus Torvalds
2005-12-20 21:03               ` [Alsa-devel] " Linus Torvalds
2005-12-20 22:17               ` Lee Revell
2005-12-20 22:17                 ` [Alsa-devel] " Lee Revell
2005-12-21  1:29                 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-12-21  1:29                   ` [Alsa-devel] " Linus Torvalds
2005-12-21 13:29                 ` Stephen Clark
2005-12-21 14:39               ` Takashi Iwai
2005-12-21 14:39                 ` [Alsa-devel] " Takashi Iwai
2005-12-21 18:32                 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-12-21 18:32                   ` [Alsa-devel] " Linus Torvalds
2005-12-21 18:52                   ` Takashi Iwai
2005-12-21 18:52                     ` [Alsa-devel] " Takashi Iwai
2005-12-21 22:42                     ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-21 22:42                       ` [Alsa-devel] " Adrian Bunk
2005-12-21 22:50                     ` R C
2005-12-21 22:50                     ` [Alsa-devel] " R C
2005-12-21 16:58               ` Steve deRosier [this message]
2005-12-21 18:32                 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-12-21 18:32                   ` [Alsa-devel] " Linus Torvalds
2005-12-21 18:41                   ` Takashi Iwai
2005-12-20 20:35         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2005-12-22  0:59           ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-22  0:59           ` [Alsa-devel] " Adrian Bunk
2005-12-22 11:15             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2005-12-22 11:15             ` [Alsa-devel] " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2005-12-20 19:14       ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-22  1:13 ` 2.6.15-rc6: known regressions in the kernel Bugzilla Adrian Bunk
2005-12-22  7:15   ` Greg KH
2005-12-22 12:04     ` Takashi Iwai
2005-12-29 13:23       ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-29 13:23       ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-30 19:31         ` Lee Revell
2005-12-30 19:31         ` Lee Revell
2005-12-22  8:52   ` Andrew Morton
2005-12-22 13:57     ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-22 14:08       ` Andrew Morton
2005-12-22 23:12         ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-23 15:28         ` Bill Davidsen
2005-12-23 17:32           ` Michael Krufky
2005-12-24  3:54             ` Andrew Morton
2005-12-25 20:25               ` Bill Davidsen
2005-12-26  1:59               ` Michael Krufky
2005-12-26  2:21               ` Lee Revell
2005-12-22 17:11       ` Brice Goglin
     [not found]       ` <200512222152.05427.p_christ@hol.gr>
     [not found]         ` <1135291436.14685.7.camel@localhost>
2005-12-22 22:55           ` Mike Krufky
     [not found]             ` <200512230121.48882.p_christ@hol.gr>
2005-12-23  1:07               ` Michael Krufky
2005-12-23 11:50       ` Gottfried Haider
2006-01-02 16:00         ` Adrian Bunk
2006-01-04 16:38           ` Greg KH
2005-12-22 15:16     ` David S. Miller

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