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From: Peter Williams <pwil3058@bigpond.net.au>
To: Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no>
Cc: Kyle Moffett <mrmacman_g4@mac.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched:	Fix	adverse	effects	of	NFS	client	on	interactive response
Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 00:36:07 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <43ABFD47.3080000@bigpond.net.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1135342262.8167.143.camel@lade.trondhjem.org>

Trond Myklebust wrote:
> On Fri, 2005-12-23 at 21:49 +1100, Peter Williams wrote:
> 
>>No.  It is asking whether the NORMAL interruption of this interruptible 
>>sleep will be caused by a human user action such as a keystroke or mouse 
>>action.  For the NFS client the answer to that question is unequivically 
>>no.  It's not a matter of policy it's a matter of fact.
> 
> 
>         /*
>          * Tasks that have marked their sleep as noninteractive get
>          * woken up without updating their sleep average. (i.e. their
>          * sleep is handled in a priority-neutral manner, no priority
>          * boost and no penalty.)
>          */
> 
> This appears to be the only documentation for the TASK_NONINTERACTIVE
> flag,

I guess it makes to many assumptions about the reader's prior knowledge 
of the scheduler internals.  I'll try to make it clearer.

> and I see no mention of human user actions in that comment. The
> comment rather appears to states that this particular flag is designed
> to switch between two different scheduling policies.

Changes of scheduling policy only occur via calls to sched_setscheduler().

> 
> If the flag really is only about identifying sleeps that will involve
> human user actions, then surely it would be easy to set up a short set
> of guidelines in Documentation, say, that spell out exactly what the
> purpose is, and when it should be used.

Sounds reasonable.  I'll propose some changes to the scheduler 
documentation.

> That should be done _before_ one starts charging round converting every
> instance of TASK_INTERRUPTIBLE.

Peter
-- 
Peter Williams                                   pwil3058@bigpond.net.au

"Learning, n. The kind of ignorance distinguishing the studious."
  -- Ambrose Bierce

  reply	other threads:[~2005-12-23 13:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-12-21  6:00 [PATCH] sched: Fix adverse effects of NFS client on interactive response Peter Williams
2005-12-21  6:09 ` Trond Myklebust
2005-12-21  6:32   ` Peter Williams
2005-12-21 13:21     ` Trond Myklebust
2005-12-21 13:36       ` Kyle Moffett
2005-12-21 13:40         ` Trond Myklebust
2005-12-22  2:26           ` Peter Williams
2005-12-22 22:08             ` Trond Myklebust
2005-12-22 22:33               ` Peter Williams
2005-12-22 22:59                 ` Trond Myklebust
2005-12-23  0:02                   ` Kyle Moffett
2005-12-23  0:25                     ` Trond Myklebust
2005-12-23  3:06                       ` Peter Williams
2005-12-23  9:39                         ` Trond Myklebust
2005-12-23 10:49                           ` Peter Williams
2005-12-23 12:51                             ` Trond Myklebust
2005-12-23 13:36                               ` Peter Williams [this message]
2006-01-02 12:09                                 ` Pekka Enberg
2005-12-23 19:07                           ` Lee Revell
2005-12-23 21:08                             ` Trond Myklebust
2005-12-23 21:17                               ` Lee Revell
2005-12-23 21:23                                 ` Trond Myklebust
2005-12-23 22:04                                   ` Lee Revell
2005-12-23 22:10                                     ` Trond Myklebust
2005-12-21 16:10         ` Horst von Brand
2005-12-21 20:36           ` Kyle Moffett
2005-12-21 22:59             ` Peter Williams
2005-12-21 16:11     ` Ingo Molnar
2005-12-21 22:49       ` Peter Williams
2006-01-02 11:01     ` Helge Hafting
2006-01-02 23:54       ` Peter Williams
2006-01-04  1:25         ` Peter Williams
2006-01-04  9:40           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2006-01-04 12:18             ` Con Kolivas
2006-01-04 10:31               ` Marcelo Tosatti
2006-01-04 21:51           ` Peter Williams
2006-01-05  6:31             ` Mike Galbraith
2006-01-05 11:31               ` Peter Williams
2006-01-05 14:31                 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-01-05 23:13                   ` Peter Williams
2006-01-05 23:33                     ` Con Kolivas
2006-01-06  0:02                       ` Peter Williams
2006-01-06  0:08                         ` Con Kolivas
2006-01-06  0:40                           ` Peter Williams
2006-01-06  7:39                     ` Mike Galbraith
2006-01-07  1:11                       ` Peter Williams
2006-01-07  5:27                         ` Mike Galbraith
2006-01-07  6:34                           ` Peter Williams
2006-01-07  8:54                             ` Mike Galbraith
2006-01-07 23:40                               ` Peter Williams
2006-01-08  5:51                                 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-01-07  9:30                           ` Con Kolivas
2006-01-07 10:23                             ` Mike Galbraith
2006-01-07 23:31                             ` Peter Williams
2006-01-08  0:38                               ` Con Kolivas

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