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From: Patrizio Bassi <patrizio.bassi@gmail.com>
To: "Kernel, " <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [2.6 patch] schedule obsolete OSS drivers for removal
Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 15:03:56 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <43BBD5CC.6040905@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5rgSv-1KJ-41@gated-at.bofh.it>

Greg Louis ha scritto:
> On 20060104 (Wed) at 0850:34 +0000, Alan Cox wrote:
> 
>>On Mer, 2006-01-04 at 03:51 +0100, Tomasz K??oczko wrote:
>>
>>>Be compliant with OSS specyfication allow save many time on applications 
>>>development level by consume (in good sense) time spend on this 
>>>applications by *BSD, Solaris and other systems developers (even on not 
>>>open source applications).
>>
>>Both Solaris and FreeBSD contain Linux emulation code so in that sense
>>they admitted 'defeat' long ago.
>>
>>
>>>valuable functionalities in usable/simpler form for joe-like users .. 
>>>remember: sound support in Linux isn't for data centers/big-ass-machines :)
>>
>>And distributions nowdays ship with ALSA by default, which is giving
>>users far better audio timing behaviour, mixing they want, digital and
>>analogue 5.1 outputs. OSS really isn't ideal for serious "end user"
>>applications like video playback
>>
> 
> Ok, so I'm not serious :) just wanna do fairly standard audio things.
> 
> - ALSA doesn't (AFAIK, haven't checked for a few months) support my old
>   Audiotrix sound card -- bye, machine 1
> - ALSA can't be persuaded (not by me, anyway) to drive my VIA
>   ac97_codec onboard sound hardware -- everything works fine except
>   unmuting ;) -- bye, machine 2
> - ALSA does suport my i810_audio ac97_codec laptop, but so does OSS,
>   equally well (for my unsophisticated needs) and with a far less
>   elephantine footprint in memory. -- strike 3, ALSA out.
> 
> So even if sound support in Linux _is_ for "big-ass" studio work, it
> would be nice if little guys didn't get abandoned along the way, IMHO.
> 

if you miss some drivers, you can add them (or ask for that) written in
alsa driver.

and if your chipset works with alsa as with oss that's not a good
motivation not to remove OSS.

think about audigy2 users :)

ps. i've an old ens1370 card..so that's not me

	Patrizio

--
Patrizio Bassi
www.patriziobassi.it

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2006-01-04 14:03                     ` Patrizio Bassi [this message]
2005-10-30 10:51 [2.6 patch] schedule obsolete OSS drivers for removal Adrian Bunk
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2005-10-30 13:51   ` Adrian Bunk
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2005-10-30 14:27 ` Kyle McMartin
2005-10-30 15:12   ` Adrian Bunk
2005-10-30 15:19     ` Kyle McMartin
2005-10-31 16:50     ` Lee Revell
2005-11-01 14:55       ` Adrian Bunk
2005-10-30 18:06 ` Andi Kleen
2005-10-30 18:38   ` Adrian Bunk
2005-10-30 19:35     ` Andi Kleen
2005-10-30 19:49       ` Adrian Bunk
2005-10-31 11:09         ` Takashi Iwai
2005-10-31 15:59         ` Nix
2005-10-31 16:27           ` Michael Buesch
2005-10-31 16:36             ` Nix
2005-10-31  7:06   ` Lee Revell
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2005-07-26 15:46   ` Adrian Bunk
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2005-07-26 16:49   ` Lee Revell
2005-07-26 16:49     ` Lee Revell
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2005-07-27  3:19       ` Gene Heskett
2005-07-26 15:51 ` Lee Revell
2005-07-26 15:51   ` Lee Revell
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2005-07-26 15:57     ` Jeff Garzik
2005-07-26 16:02     ` Lee Revell
2005-07-26 16:02       ` Lee Revell
2005-07-27 18:24     ` Adrian Bunk
2005-07-27 18:24       ` Adrian Bunk
2005-07-27 20:31       ` John W. Linville
2005-07-27 20:31         ` John W. Linville
2005-07-27 20:43         ` Jeff Garzik
2005-07-27 20:43           ` Jeff Garzik
2005-07-28 13:44           ` Alan Cox
2005-07-28 14:00             ` Alan Cox
2005-07-28 13:43             ` Jaroslav Kysela
2005-07-28 13:43               ` Jaroslav Kysela
2005-07-28 14:15               ` Adrian Bunk
2005-07-28 14:15                 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-01-03 13:14               ` Adrian Bunk
2006-01-03 13:14               ` Adrian Bunk
2005-07-26 16:30   ` Adrian Bunk
2005-07-26 16:30     ` Adrian Bunk
2005-07-26 16:17 ` Andrew Haninger
2005-07-26 16:17   ` Andrew Haninger
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2005-07-31 19:29     ` Adrian Bunk
2005-07-26 16:27 ` Zach Brown
2005-07-26 16:27   ` Zach Brown
2005-07-26 21:41   ` Krzysztof Halasa
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2005-07-26 23:38   ` Zoran Dzelajlija
2005-07-26 23:38     ` Zoran Dzelajlija
2005-07-27 23:28     ` Lee Revell
2005-07-27 23:28       ` Lee Revell
2005-07-27 23:58       ` Rogério Brito
2005-07-27 23:58         ` Rogério Brito
2005-07-28  8:09     ` Takashi Iwai
2005-07-28  8:09       ` Takashi Iwai
2005-07-31 19:36     ` Adrian Bunk
2005-07-31 19:36       ` Adrian Bunk
2005-07-27 18:39 ` Kyle McMartin
2005-07-27 18:39   ` Kyle McMartin
2005-07-28 14:14   ` Adrian Bunk
2005-07-28 14:14     ` Adrian Bunk
2005-07-28 15:04 ` Thorsten Knabe
2005-07-28 15:04   ` Thorsten Knabe
2005-07-28 15:46   ` Adrian Bunk
2005-07-28 15:46     ` Adrian Bunk
2005-07-28 15:46     ` Adrian Bunk
2005-07-28 15:04 ` Thorsten Knabe
2005-07-31 13:38 ` James Courtier-Dutton
2005-07-31 13:38   ` James Courtier-Dutton
2005-07-31 13:50 ` James Courtier-Dutton
2006-01-03 13:21 ` Andi Kleen
2006-01-03 13:21   ` Andi Kleen
2006-01-03 13:47   ` Alistair John Strachan
2006-01-03 13:47     ` Alistair John Strachan
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2006-01-03 13:52       ` Andi Kleen
2006-01-03 13:58       ` David Lang
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2006-01-03 18:24       ` Lee Revell
2006-01-03 18:24         ` Lee Revell
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2006-01-04 11:16           ` Jaroslav Kysela
2006-01-04 11:16             ` Jaroslav Kysela
2006-01-03 14:38     ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-03 14:38       ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-03 14:41       ` Alistair John Strachan
2006-01-03 14:41         ` Alistair John Strachan
2006-01-03 14:50         ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-03 14:50           ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-03 15:22           ` Alistair John Strachan
2006-01-03 15:22             ` Alistair John Strachan
2006-01-03 16:05             ` Tomasz Torcz
2006-01-03 16:05               ` Tomasz Torcz
2006-01-03 16:29               ` Alistair John Strachan
2006-01-03 16:29                 ` Alistair John Strachan
2006-01-03 17:03                 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-01-03 17:03                   ` Olivier Galibert
2006-01-03 17:16                   ` Alistair John Strachan
2006-01-03 17:16                     ` Alistair John Strachan
2006-01-03 19:24                     ` Olivier Galibert
2006-01-03 19:24                       ` Olivier Galibert
2006-01-03 19:37                       ` Adrian Bunk
2006-01-03 19:37                         ` Adrian Bunk
2006-01-03 21:40                         ` Olivier Galibert
2006-01-03 21:40                           ` Olivier Galibert
2006-01-03 23:10                         ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2006-01-03 23:10                           ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2006-01-04  0:33                           ` Thomas Sailer
2006-01-04  0:33                             ` Thomas Sailer
2006-01-04  1:48                             ` Olivier Galibert
2006-01-04  1:48                               ` Olivier Galibert
2006-01-04  9:03                           ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-04  9:03                             ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-04 12:13                           ` Joern Nettingsmeier
2006-01-04 12:13                             ` Joern Nettingsmeier
2006-01-04 12:35                             ` Andi Kleen
2006-01-04 12:35                               ` Andi Kleen
2006-01-04 12:41                               ` Jaroslav Kysela
2006-01-04 12:41                                 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2006-01-04 17:31                                 ` Alistair John Strachan
2006-01-04 17:31                                   ` Alistair John Strachan
2006-01-04 17:48                                   ` Takashi Iwai
2006-01-04 17:48                                     ` Takashi Iwai
2006-01-03 22:33                       ` James Courtier-Dutton
2006-01-04  1:28                         ` Olivier Galibert
2006-01-05  6:42                       ` Lee Revell
2006-01-05  6:42                         ` Lee Revell
2006-01-03 18:28                   ` Lee Revell
2006-01-03 18:28                     ` Lee Revell
2006-01-03 19:30                     ` Thomas Sailer
2006-01-03 19:37                       ` Jaroslav Kysela
2006-01-03 19:56                         ` Thomas Sailer
2006-01-03 20:06                           ` Jaroslav Kysela
2006-01-04  0:23                             ` Thomas Sailer
2006-01-03 22:39                           ` James Courtier-Dutton
2006-01-03 20:22                   ` Takashi Iwai
2006-01-03 20:22                     ` Takashi Iwai
2006-01-03 20:37                     ` Tomasz Torcz
2006-01-03 20:37                       ` Tomasz Torcz
2006-01-03 20:44                       ` Takashi Iwai
2006-01-03 20:44                         ` Takashi Iwai
2006-01-03 20:56                         ` Jesper Juhl
2006-01-03 20:56                           ` Jesper Juhl
2006-01-03 21:56                           ` Adrian Bunk
2006-01-03 21:56                             ` Adrian Bunk
2006-01-03 22:11                             ` Jesper Juhl
2006-01-03 22:11                               ` Jesper Juhl
2006-01-04 11:46                               ` Takashi Iwai
2006-01-04 11:46                                 ` Takashi Iwai
2006-01-04 14:46                                 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-04 14:46                                   ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-04 16:43                                   ` Marcin Dalecki
2006-01-04 16:43                                     ` Marcin Dalecki
2006-01-05 10:57                                     ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-05 10:57                                       ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-05 12:44                                       ` Marcin Dalecki
2006-01-05 12:44                                         ` Marcin Dalecki
2006-01-05 18:33                                         ` Lee Revell
2006-01-05 18:33                                           ` Lee Revell
2006-01-05 20:03                                           ` Marcin Dalecki
2006-01-05 20:03                                             ` Marcin Dalecki
2006-01-05 20:05                                             ` Lee Revell
2006-01-05 20:05                                               ` Lee Revell
2006-01-05 20:18                                               ` Marcin Dalecki
2006-01-05 20:18                                                 ` Marcin Dalecki
2006-01-05 20:28                                                 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-05 20:28                                                   ` Lee Revell
2006-01-05 20:32                                                   ` Marcin Dalecki
2006-01-05 20:32                                                     ` Marcin Dalecki
2006-01-05 20:39                                                     ` Lee Revell
2006-01-05 20:39                                                       ` Lee Revell
2006-01-05 20:32                                                 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-05 20:32                                                   ` Lee Revell
2006-01-05 20:54                                                   ` Marcin Dalecki
2006-01-05 20:54                                                     ` Marcin Dalecki
2006-01-05 21:01                                                     ` Lee Revell
2006-01-05 21:01                                                       ` Lee Revell
2006-01-05 21:43                                                       ` Marcin Dalecki
2006-01-05 21:43                                                         ` Marcin Dalecki
2006-01-05 21:47                                                         ` Lee Revell
2006-01-05 21:47                                                           ` Lee Revell
2006-01-05 23:35                                                     ` Jesper Juhl
2006-01-05 23:35                                                       ` Jesper Juhl
2006-01-06  0:04                                                       ` Marcin Dalecki
2006-01-06  0:04                                                         ` Marcin Dalecki
2006-01-06  0:08                                                         ` Jesper Juhl
2006-01-06  0:08                                                           ` Jesper Juhl
2006-01-06  1:36                                                         ` Hannu Savolainen
2006-01-06  1:36                                                           ` Hannu Savolainen
2006-01-06  9:54                                                           ` James Courtier-Dutton
2006-01-06 13:37                                                             ` Hannu Savolainen
2006-01-06 13:37                                                               ` Hannu Savolainen
2006-01-06 10:34                                                           ` Gabor Gombas
2006-01-06 10:34                                                             ` Gabor Gombas
2006-01-06 12:48                                                             ` Hannu Savolainen
2006-01-06 12:48                                                               ` Hannu Savolainen
2006-01-07 14:09                                                           ` Takashi Iwai
2006-01-07 14:09                                                             ` Takashi Iwai
2006-01-07 14:57                                                             ` Marcin Dalecki
2006-01-07 14:57                                                               ` Marcin Dalecki
2006-01-08  0:21                                                             ` Hannu Savolainen
2006-01-08  0:21                                                               ` Hannu Savolainen
2006-01-06  2:40                                             ` Diego Calleja
2006-01-06  2:40                                               ` Diego Calleja
2006-01-06 14:57                                               ` Olivier Galibert
2006-01-06 14:57                                                 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-01-06 20:26                                                 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2006-01-06 20:26                                                   ` Jaroslav Kysela
2006-01-07  0:40                                                   ` Marcin Dalecki
2006-01-07  0:40                                                     ` Marcin Dalecki
2006-01-07  0:56                                                   ` Olivier Galibert
2006-01-07  0:56                                                   ` Olivier Galibert
2006-01-07  0:56                                                     ` Olivier Galibert
2006-01-05 23:19                                           ` Hannu Savolainen
2006-01-05 23:33                                             ` Lee Revell
2006-01-06 13:20                                               ` caszonyi
2006-01-06 13:43                                                 ` James Courtier-Dutton
2006-01-06 18:24                                                 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-06 18:27                                                 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-04 20:12                                   ` Kyle Moffett
2006-01-04 20:12                                     ` Kyle Moffett
2006-01-04 22:25                                     ` Olivier Galibert
2006-01-04 22:25                                       ` Olivier Galibert
2006-01-03 22:13                             ` Tomasz Torcz
2006-01-03 22:13                               ` Tomasz Torcz
2006-01-03 23:10                               ` Adrian Bunk
2006-01-03 23:10                                 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-01-03 23:51                                 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2006-01-03 23:51                                   ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2006-01-04  0:03                                   ` Adrian Bunk
2006-01-04  0:03                                     ` Adrian Bunk
2006-01-04  0:46                                     ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2006-01-04  0:46                                       ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2006-01-04  1:01                                       ` Adrian Bunk
2006-01-04  1:01                                         ` Adrian Bunk
2006-01-04  2:51                                         ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2006-01-04  2:51                                           ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2006-01-04  8:50                                           ` Alan Cox
2006-01-04  8:50                                             ` Alan Cox
2006-01-04 13:21                                             ` Greg Louis
2006-01-04 13:21                                               ` Greg Louis
2006-01-04 14:41                                               ` Adrian Bunk
2006-01-04 14:41                                                 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-01-04 10:37                                           ` tapas
2006-01-04 10:37                                             ` tapas
2006-01-04 17:28                                             ` Alistair John Strachan
2006-01-04 17:28                                               ` Alistair John Strachan
2006-01-05  7:14                                               ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-05  7:14                                                 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-04 17:54                                             ` Takashi Iwai
2006-01-04 17:54                                               ` Takashi Iwai
2006-01-04 18:17                                               ` Florian Schmidt
2006-01-04 18:17                                                 ` Florian Schmidt
2006-01-04 19:28                                                 ` Marcin Dalecki
2006-01-04 19:28                                                   ` Marcin Dalecki
2006-01-04 19:52                                                   ` Florian Schmidt
2006-01-04 19:52                                                     ` Florian Schmidt
2006-01-05  7:11                                                     ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-05  7:11                                                       ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-05 11:15                                                     ` Takashi Iwai
2006-01-05 11:15                                                       ` Takashi Iwai
2006-01-05 21:20                                                   ` Jim Crilly
2006-01-05 21:20                                                     ` Jim Crilly
2006-01-05  7:11                                                 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-05  7:11                                                   ` Lee Revell
2006-01-05 19:09                                                   ` Edgar Toernig
2006-01-05 19:09                                                     ` Edgar Toernig
2006-01-05 19:29                                                     ` Lee Revell
2006-01-05 19:29                                                       ` Lee Revell
2006-01-05 20:19                                                       ` Lee Revell
2006-01-05 20:19                                                         ` Lee Revell
2006-01-05 21:05                                                         ` Edgar Toernig
2006-01-05 21:05                                                           ` Edgar Toernig
2006-01-05 21:10                                                           ` Lee Revell
2006-01-05 21:10                                                             ` Lee Revell
2006-01-05 20:24                                                       ` Edgar Toernig
2006-01-05 20:24                                                         ` Edgar Toernig
2006-01-05 20:29                                                         ` Lee Revell
2006-01-05 20:29                                                           ` Lee Revell
2006-01-05  7:16                                             ` Lee Revell
2006-01-05  7:16                                               ` Lee Revell
2006-01-05 11:43                                               ` Florian Schmidt
2006-01-05 11:43                                                 ` Florian Schmidt
2006-01-05 17:48                                                 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-05 17:48                                                   ` Lee Revell
2006-01-08 21:07                                                   ` Ville Herva
2006-01-08 21:07                                                     ` Ville Herva
2006-01-08 21:44                                                     ` Lee Revell
2006-01-08 21:44                                                       ` Lee Revell
2006-01-09  8:16                                                       ` Ville Herva
2006-01-09  8:16                                                         ` Ville Herva
2006-01-09 13:52                                                         ` Lee Revell
2006-01-09 13:52                                                           ` Lee Revell
2006-01-09 14:22                                                           ` Ville Herva
2006-01-09 14:22                                                             ` Ville Herva
2006-01-09 15:18                                                             ` Lee Revell
2006-01-09 15:18                                                               ` Lee Revell
2006-01-09 16:21                                                               ` Ville Herva
2006-01-09 16:21                                                                 ` Ville Herva
2006-01-09 16:22                                                                 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-09 16:22                                                                   ` Lee Revell
2006-01-05 18:36                                                 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-05 18:36                                                   ` Lee Revell
2006-01-05 18:47                                                   ` Tomasz Torcz
2006-01-05 18:47                                                     ` Tomasz Torcz
2006-01-05 19:10                                                     ` Lee Revell
2006-01-05 19:10                                                       ` Lee Revell
2006-01-05 19:15                                                   ` Florian Schmidt
2006-01-05 19:15                                                     ` Florian Schmidt
2006-01-04  0:28                                   ` Stefan Smietanowski
2006-01-04  0:28                                     ` Stefan Smietanowski
2006-01-04  1:38                                     ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2006-01-04  1:38                                       ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2006-01-04  9:48                                       ` Stefan Smietanowski
2006-01-04  9:48                                         ` Stefan Smietanowski
2006-01-05  3:03                                         ` Peter Bortas
2006-01-05  3:03                                           ` Peter Bortas
2006-01-05  7:13                                           ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-05  7:13                                             ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-05  7:19                                             ` Lee Revell
2006-01-05  7:19                                               ` Lee Revell
2006-01-05  8:41                                               ` Stefan Smietanowski
2006-01-05  8:41                                                 ` Stefan Smietanowski
2006-01-05  9:57                                             ` Peter Bortas
2006-01-05  9:57                                               ` Peter Bortas
2006-01-03 17:09             ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-03 17:09               ` Jan Engelhardt

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