From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: David Vrabel Subject: Re: Re: RFC: OSS driver removal, a slightly different approach Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:13:24 +0000 Message-ID: <43CFE4D4.2020900@cantab.net> References: <20060119174600.GT19398@stusta.de> <1137694944.32195.1.camel@mindpipe> <20060119182859.GW19398@stusta.de> <1137696885.32195.12.camel@mindpipe> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from rutherford.zen.co.uk (rutherford.zen.co.uk [212.23.3.142]) by alsa.jcu.cz (ALSA's E-mail Delivery System) with ESMTP id 009A715E for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 20:13:40 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: Sender: alsa-devel-admin@lists.sourceforge.net Errors-To: alsa-devel-admin@lists.sourceforge.net List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: To: Takashi Iwai Cc: Lee Revell , Adrian Bunk , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, perex@suse.cz, Alan Cox List-Id: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org Takashi Iwai wrote: > At Thu, 19 Jan 2006 13:54:45 -0500, > Lee Revell wrote: > >>On Thu, 2006-01-19 at 19:28 +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote: >> >>>On Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 01:22:23PM -0500, Lee Revell wrote: >>> >>>>On Thu, 2006-01-19 at 18:46 +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote: >>>> >>>>>3. no ALSA drivers for the same hardware >>>>> >>>>>SOUND_SB >>>> >>>>ALSA certainly does support "100% Sound Blaster compatibles (SB16/32/64, >>>>ESS, Jazz16)", it would be a joke if it didn't... >>> >>>That's not the problem, I should have added an explanation: >>> >>>SOUND_SB (due to SOUND_KAHLUA and SOUND_PAS) >>> >> >>Hmm. From sound/oss/kahlua.c: >> >>/* >> * Initialisation code for Cyrix/NatSemi VSA1 softaudio >> * >> * (C) Copyright 2003 Red Hat Inc >> * >> >>Why was a new OSS driver written and accepted at such a late date, when >>OSS was already deprecated? > > > You'll find out that it must be pretty easy to write kahlua driver for > ALSA, too, if you look at kahlua.c. Just need a hardware to certify > if this is really demanded... Is this the audio on the Cyrix MediaGX (later National Semiconductor Geode GXm)? I have access to hardware with that CPUs that I can test with if someone wants to write an ALSA driver. Er... though I'm not sure what VSA version the BIOS has. I seem to recall that the Soundblaster 16 emulation provided by the VSA code worked fine so perhaps this can be dropped entirely. I've not touched a MediaGX based board in many years so I may be remembering incorrectly. The Soundblaster 16 emulation does work fine on AMD Geode GX1 boards. 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DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=103432&bid=230486&dat=121642 From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1161231AbWASTNm (ORCPT ); Thu, 19 Jan 2006 14:13:42 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1161330AbWASTNl (ORCPT ); Thu, 19 Jan 2006 14:13:41 -0500 Received: from rutherford.zen.co.uk ([212.23.3.142]:6075 "EHLO rutherford.zen.co.uk") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1161333AbWASTNj (ORCPT ); Thu, 19 Jan 2006 14:13:39 -0500 Message-ID: <43CFE4D4.2020900@cantab.net> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:13:24 +0000 From: David Vrabel User-Agent: Debian Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051017) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Takashi Iwai CC: Lee Revell , Adrian Bunk , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, perex@suse.cz, Alan Cox Subject: Re: [Alsa-devel] Re: RFC: OSS driver removal, a slightly different approach References: <20060119174600.GT19398@stusta.de> <1137694944.32195.1.camel@mindpipe> <20060119182859.GW19398@stusta.de> <1137696885.32195.12.camel@mindpipe> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-Rutherford-IP: [82.70.146.41] Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Takashi Iwai wrote: > At Thu, 19 Jan 2006 13:54:45 -0500, > Lee Revell wrote: > >>On Thu, 2006-01-19 at 19:28 +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote: >> >>>On Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 01:22:23PM -0500, Lee Revell wrote: >>> >>>>On Thu, 2006-01-19 at 18:46 +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote: >>>> >>>>>3. no ALSA drivers for the same hardware >>>>> >>>>>SOUND_SB >>>> >>>>ALSA certainly does support "100% Sound Blaster compatibles (SB16/32/64, >>>>ESS, Jazz16)", it would be a joke if it didn't... >>> >>>That's not the problem, I should have added an explanation: >>> >>>SOUND_SB (due to SOUND_KAHLUA and SOUND_PAS) >>> >> >>Hmm. From sound/oss/kahlua.c: >> >>/* >> * Initialisation code for Cyrix/NatSemi VSA1 softaudio >> * >> * (C) Copyright 2003 Red Hat Inc >> * >> >>Why was a new OSS driver written and accepted at such a late date, when >>OSS was already deprecated? > > > You'll find out that it must be pretty easy to write kahlua driver for > ALSA, too, if you look at kahlua.c. Just need a hardware to certify > if this is really demanded... Is this the audio on the Cyrix MediaGX (later National Semiconductor Geode GXm)? I have access to hardware with that CPUs that I can test with if someone wants to write an ALSA driver. Er... though I'm not sure what VSA version the BIOS has. I seem to recall that the Soundblaster 16 emulation provided by the VSA code worked fine so perhaps this can be dropped entirely. I've not touched a MediaGX based board in many years so I may be remembering incorrectly. The Soundblaster 16 emulation does work fine on AMD Geode GX1 boards. David Vrabel