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From: Rene Herman <rene.herman@keyaccess.nl>
To: Helmut Toplitzer <pvrusb2@toplitzer.net>
Cc: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <bzolnier@gmail.com>,
	linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, dbrownell@users.sourceforge.net,
	linux-usb-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [linux-usb-devel] Re: BUG?: VIA IDE transfer-rate problem
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 16:11:20 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <43D0FD98.4080406@keyaccess.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200601201227.27000.pvrusb2@toplitzer.net>

Helmut Toplitzer wrote:

> Rene: Could you please try this out?

Yes, but please note I don't have a VIA southbridge (an AMD756), only 
the VIA VT6212L EHCI controller. I commented the

#if defined(CONFIG_BLK_DEV_VIA82CXXX)

bit.

> I'm currently working with it and it looks good.
> Transfer rate is at 57MB and cooler goes down after
> booting.

Unfortunately, this all does absolutely nothing for me:

$ dmesg | grep VIA
DISABLE VIA HLT  activated

				hdparm -t /dev/hda = 50 MB/s
1. modprobe ehci-hcd		hdparm -t /dev/hda = 50 MB/s
2. switch on USB2 drive		hdparm -t /dev/hda = 42 MB/s
3. switch off USB2 drive	hdparm -t /dev/hda = 42 MB/s
4. modprobe -r ehci-hcd		hdparm -t /dev/hda = 50 MB/s

Ie, same as before. Also tried the "setpci" statements for AMD751 (and 
athcool) as described on the link you posted:

http://www.daniel.nofftz.net/linux/Athlon-Powersaving-HOWTO.html

My machine boots up with the powersaving feauture already disabled. When 
I enable it, I

a) hear my PSU calming down, confirming that it works
b) see the (non-ehci loaded) hdparm result drop from 50 to 45
c) lose at least my NIC, a few times all of the computer

That is, the system becomes very unstable. In any case, there is no 
effect on the ehci-hcd/vt6216l issue either. If I load ehci-hcd and 
switch on the USB2 drive when the powersaving is disabled, then I

a) hear the PSU going full speed again, confirming that something's
    being very busy there
b) see the hdparm result drop to the exact same 42MB/s
c) am lucky to have a non-frozen computer at this point

The c) is just the instability. The point is -- no effecf on this issue 
at all.

I believe we can conclude that it's confirmed that you and I weren't 
experiencing the same problem after all. I feel so alone again...

I do find it interesting that I hear the PSU foing to full again on 
switching on the external drive if I had lowered it by disabling the 
powersaving. This would seem to prove that, indeed, something is being 
_very_ busy there. Earlier, I have confirmed that there's really no 
driver -> controller communication going on at this point (and no 
interrupts controller -> driver) though.

Yes, I dislike VIA, and I'm probably just paranoid, but I so much would 
put it _not_ past those <censored> to do whatever they do on purpose, so 
that the chip's faster to the bus when it _does_ actually have something 
to do.

Many thanks for the ideas, but I'm still out of luck, it seems.

Rene.

  reply	other threads:[~2006-01-20 15:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-01-13 18:09 BUG?: VIA IDE transfer-rate problem Helmut Toplitzer
2006-01-13 18:10 ` Helmut Toplitzer
2006-01-16 17:49   ` Helmut Toplitzer
2006-01-17  9:55     ` Gentoopower
2006-01-17 10:22       ` Helmut Toplitzer
2006-01-17 13:17 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2006-01-17 14:19   ` [linux-usb-devel] " Rene Herman
2006-01-17 16:03   ` Helmut Toplitzer
2006-01-18 10:27     ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2006-01-18 14:36       ` Helmut Toplitzer
2006-01-18 15:54         ` [linux-usb-devel] " David Brownell
2006-01-18 16:13         ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2006-01-18 23:41           ` Helmut Toplitzer
2006-01-19  1:05             ` [linux-usb-devel] " Alan Cox
2006-01-19  7:21           ` Helmut Toplitzer
2006-01-19 11:51             ` Erik Slagter
2006-01-19 12:19             ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2006-01-19 13:31               ` Helmut Toplitzer
2006-01-19 19:59                 ` Helmut Toplitzer
2006-01-19 21:29                   ` [linux-usb-devel] " Alan Stern
2006-01-20 11:27                     ` Helmut Toplitzer
2006-01-20 15:11                       ` Rene Herman [this message]
2006-01-20 15:44                         ` Helmut Toplitzer
2006-01-22 17:16                           ` Rene Herman

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