All of lore.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Avi Kivity <avi@argo.co.il>
To: Al Boldi <a1426z@gawab.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] VM: I have a dream...
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 20:46:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <43D28189.3080407@argo.co.il> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200601212108.41269.a1426z@gawab.com>

Al Boldi wrote:

>A long time ago, when i was a kid, I had dream. It went like this:
>
>I am waking up in the twenty-first century and start my computer.
>After completing the boot sequence, I start top to find that my memory is 
>equal to total disk-capacity.  What's more, there is no more swap.
>Apps are executed inplace, as if already loaded.
>Physical RAM is used to cache slower storage RAM, much the same as the CPU 
>cache RAM caches slower physical RAM.
>
>  
>
I'm sure you can find a 4GB disk on ebay.

>When I woke up, I was really looking forward for the new century.
>
>Sadly, the current way of dealing with memory can at best only be described 
>as schizophrenic.  Again the reason being, that we are still running in the 
>last-century mode.
>
>Wouldn't it be nice to take advantage of todays 64bit archs and TB drives, 
>and run a more modern way of life w/o this memory/storage split personality?
>  
>
Perhaps you'd be interested in single-level store architectures, where 
no distinction is made between memory and storage. IBM uses it in one 
(or maybe more) of their systems. A particularly interesting example is 
http://www.eros-os.org.

-- 
Do not meddle in the internals of kernels, for they are subtle and quick to panic.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-01-21 18:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-01-21 18:08 [RFC] VM: I have a dream Al Boldi
2006-01-21 18:42 ` Jamie Lokier
2006-01-21 18:46 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2006-01-23 19:52   ` Bryan Henderson
2006-01-25 22:04     ` Al Boldi
2006-01-26 19:18       ` Bryan Henderson
2006-01-27 16:12         ` Al Boldi
2006-01-27 19:17           ` Bryan Henderson
2006-01-30 13:21             ` Al Boldi
2006-01-30 13:35               ` Kyle Moffett
2006-01-31 15:56                 ` Al Boldi
2006-01-31 16:34                   ` Kyle Moffett
2006-01-31 23:14                     ` Bryan Henderson
2006-01-31 16:34                   ` Lennart Sorensen
2006-01-31 19:23                   ` Jamie Lokier
2006-02-01  4:06                   ` Barry K. Nathan
2006-02-01  9:51                     ` Andrew Walrond
2006-02-01 17:51                       ` Lennart Sorensen
2006-02-01 18:21                         ` Andrew Walrond
2006-02-01 18:25                           ` Lennart Sorensen
2006-02-02 15:11                   ` Alan Cox
2006-02-02 18:59                     ` Al Boldi
2006-02-02 22:33                       ` Bryan Henderson
2006-02-03 14:46                       ` Alan Cox
2006-01-30 16:49               ` Bryan Henderson
2006-01-26  0:03     ` Jon Smirl
2006-01-26 19:48       ` Bryan Henderson
2006-01-22  8:16 ` Pavel Machek
2006-01-22 12:33 ` Robin Holt
2006-01-23 18:03   ` Al Boldi
2006-01-23 18:40     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-01-23 19:26       ` Benjamin LaHaise
2006-01-23 19:40         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-01-23 22:26     ` Pavel Machek
2006-01-22 19:55 ` Barry K. Nathan
2006-01-23  5:23   ` Michael Loftis
2006-01-23  5:46     ` Chase Venters
2006-01-23  8:20       ` Barry K. Nathan
2006-01-23 13:17       ` Jamie Lokier
2006-01-23 20:21         ` Peter Chubb
2006-01-23 15:05     ` Ram Gupta
2006-01-23 15:26       ` Diego Calleja
2006-01-23 15:26         ` Diego Calleja
2006-01-23 16:11         ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2006-01-23 16:11           ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2006-01-23 16:50           ` Jamie Lokier
2006-01-24  2:08           ` Horst von Brand
2006-01-25  6:13             ` Jamie Lokier
2006-01-25  9:23             ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2006-01-25  9:42               ` Lee Revell
2006-01-25 15:02                 ` Jamie Lokier
2006-01-25 23:24                   ` Lee Revell
2006-01-25 15:05               ` Jamie Lokier
2006-01-25 15:47                 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2006-01-25 16:09                 ` Diego Calleja
2006-01-25 16:09                   ` Diego Calleja
2006-01-25 17:26                   ` Jamie Lokier
2006-01-26 19:13                     ` Bryan Henderson
2006-01-25 23:28                 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-26  1:29                   ` Diego Calleja
2006-01-26  5:01                   ` Jamie Lokier
2006-01-26  5:11                     ` Lee Revell
2006-01-26 14:46                       ` Dave Kleikamp
2006-01-24  2:10           ` Horst von Brand
2006-01-25 22:27         ` Nix
2006-01-25 22:27           ` Nix
2006-01-26 15:13           ` Denis Vlasenko
2006-01-26 15:13             ` Denis Vlasenko
2006-01-26 16:23             ` Nix
2006-01-23 20:43       ` Michael Loftis
2006-01-23 22:42         ` Nikita Danilov
2006-01-24 14:36           ` Ram Gupta
2006-01-24 15:04             ` Diego Calleja
2006-01-24 15:04               ` Diego Calleja
2006-01-24 20:59               ` Bryan Henderson
2006-01-24 15:11             ` Nikita Danilov
2006-01-23 22:57         ` Ram Gupta
2006-01-24 10:08         ` Meelis Roos
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-02-01 13:58 Al Boldi
2006-02-01 14:38 ` Jamie Lokier
2006-02-02 12:26   ` Al Boldi

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=43D28189.3080407@argo.co.il \
    --to=avi@argo.co.il \
    --cc=a1426z@gawab.com \
    --cc=linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.