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From: Kirill Korotaev <dev@sw.ru>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Cc: Dave Hansen <haveblue@us.ibm.com>,
	Kirill Korotaev <dev@openvz.org>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	frankeh@watson.ibm.com, clg@fr.ibm.com, greg@kroah.com,
	alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, serue@us.ibm.com, arjan@infradead.org,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Alexey Kuznetsov <kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru>,
	Andrey Savochkin <saw@sawoct.com>,
	devel@openvz.org, Pavel Emelianov <xemul@sw.ru>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 1/5] Virtualization/containers: startup
Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 20:21:21 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <43E78591.6040709@sw.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0602060847130.3854@g5.osdl.org>

>>Please, also note, in OpenVZ we have 2 pointers on task_struct:
>>One is owner of a task (owner_env), 2nd is a current context (exec_env).
>>exec_env pointer is used to avoid adding of additional argument to all the
>>functions where current context is required.
> 
> 
> That naming _has_ to change.
I agree.

> "exec" has a very clear meaning in unix: it talks about the notion of 
> switching to another process image, or perhaps the bit that says that a 
> file contains an image that can be executed. It has nothing to do with 
> "current".
> What you seem to be talking about is the _effective_ environment. Ie the 
> same way we have "uid" and "euid", you'd have a "container" and the 
> "effective container".
agree on this either. Good point.

> The "owner" name also makes no sense. The security context doesn't "own" 
> tasks. A task is _part_ of a context.

> So if some people don't like "container", how about just calling it 
> "context"? The downside of that name is that it's very commonly used in 
> the kenel, because a lot of things have "contexts". That's why "container" 
> would be a lot better.
> 
> I'd suggest
> 
> 	current->container	- the current EFFECTIVE container
> 	current->master_container - the "long term" container.
> 
> (replace "master" with some other non-S&M term if you want)
maybe task_container? i.e. where task actually is.
Sounds good for you?

The only problem with such names I see, that task will be an exception 
then compared to other objects. I mean, on other objects field 
"container" will mean the container which object is part of. But for 
tasks this will mean effective one. Only tasks need these 2 containers 
pointers and I would prefer having the common one to be called simply 
"container".

Maybe then
current->econtainer    - effective container
current->container     - "long term" container

> (It would make sense to just have the prepend-"e" semantics of uid/gid, 
> but the fact is, "euid/egid" has a long unix history and is readable only 
> for that reason. The same wouldn't be true of containers. And 
> "effective_container" is probably too long to use for the field that is 
> actually the _common_ case. Thus the above suggestion).
Your proposal looks quite nice.
Then we will have eventually "container" field on objects (not on task 
only) which sounds good to me. I will prepare patches right now.

Kirill


  reply	other threads:[~2006-02-06 17:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-02-03 16:58 [RFC][PATCH 1/5] Virtualization/containers: startup Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-03 17:03 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/5] Virtualization/containers: UIDs Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-03 17:06 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/5] Virtualization/containers: UTSNAME Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-06  8:21   ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06  8:53     ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-03 17:15 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/5] Virtualization/containers: startup Linus Torvalds
2006-02-03 17:22   ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-03 17:49     ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-03 18:34       ` Dave Hansen
2006-02-03 18:55         ` Jeff Garzik
2006-02-03 19:18         ` Hubertus Franke
2006-02-03 19:56         ` Hubertus Franke
2006-02-03 20:19         ` Greg KH
2006-02-03 20:34           ` Hubertus Franke
2006-02-05 15:11             ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-05 15:39               ` Hubertus Franke
2006-02-06  9:08                 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-06 22:31               ` Cedric Le Goater
2006-02-07 12:28                 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-05 15:10           ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-05 15:05         ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-06 16:35           ` Dave Hansen
2006-02-06 16:51             ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-06 16:56           ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-06 17:21             ` Kirill Korotaev [this message]
2006-02-07  0:28             ` Sam Vilain
2006-02-07 12:21               ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-07 22:21                 ` Sam Vilain
2006-02-20 11:56                   ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-03 18:36       ` Summary: PID virtualization , Containers, Migration Hubertus Franke
2006-02-03 18:36       ` [RFC][PATCH 1/5] Virtualization/containers: startup Rik van Riel
2006-02-05 14:52       ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-06  8:39       ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06  9:00         ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-06  9:19           ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06 16:37             ` Dave Hansen
2006-02-06 18:37               ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06 19:32                 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-06 22:40                 ` Cedric Le Goater
2006-02-07  1:57                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-08 21:54                 ` swsusp done by migration (was Re: [RFC][PATCH 1/5] Virtualization/containers: startup) Pavel Machek
2006-02-09 18:20                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-10  0:21                     ` Kyle Moffett
2006-02-10  4:31                       ` Sam Vilain
2006-02-10  6:23                         ` [Devel] " Vasily Averin
2006-02-11  2:38                           ` Sam Vilain
2006-02-11 17:29                             ` Vasily Averin
2006-02-12 23:29                               ` Sam Vilain
2006-02-10  8:29                         ` Kyle Moffett
2006-02-10  5:40                 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/5] Virtualization/containers: startup Nigel Cunningham
2006-02-10  6:01                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06 10:16   ` Jes Sorensen
2006-02-05 20:13 ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-06  9:04   ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-06  0:56 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-02-06  9:03   ` [Devel] " Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-06  8:31 ` Eric W. Biederman

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