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From: Kirill Korotaev <dev@sw.ru>
To: Cedric Le Goater <clg@fr.ibm.com>
Cc: Alexey Kuznetsov <kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru>,
	"Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@us.ibm.com>,
	Dave Hansen <haveblue@us.ibm.com>,
	Kirill Korotaev <dev@openvz.org>,
	arjan@infradead.org, frankeh@watson.ibm.com, mrmacman_g4@mac.com,
	alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	devel@openvz.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 5/7] VPIDs: vpid/pid conversion in VPID enabled case
Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 14:44:35 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <43E88823.3060203@sw.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <43E86C73.2070608@fr.ibm.com>

>>The question was not about openvz, it was about (container,pid) approach.
>>How are you going to reap chidren without a child reaper inside container?
>>If you reparent all the children to a single init in root container,
>>what does wait() return? In openvz it returns global pid and child is buried
>>in peace. If you do not have global pid, you cannot just return private pid.
> 
> I think the "child reaper" question is not related to the (container,pid)
> approach or the vpid approach. This is another question on who is the
> parent of a container and how does it behaves.
it is related. How reaps the last process in container when it dies?
what does waitpid() return?

> We have choosen to first follow a simple "path", complete pid isolation
> being the main constraint : a container is created by exec'ing a process in
> it.
Why to exec? It was asked already some times...

> That first process is detached from its parent processes and becomes
> child of init (already running), session leader, and process group leader.
> We could eventually add a daemon to act as a init process for the container.
See my prev question. Who reaps your init itself?

> Now, there are other ways of seeing a container parenthood, openvz, eric,
> vserver, etc. We should agree on this or find a way to have different model
> cohabitate.

Kirill


  reply	other threads:[~2006-02-07 11:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-02-02 15:54 [RFC][PATCH] VPIDs: Virtualization of PIDs (OpenVZ approach) Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-02 16:16 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/7] VPIDs: add VPID config option Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-02 16:21 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/7] VPIDs: pid/vpid conversions Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-08 20:29   ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-08 23:53     ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-02-09  0:37       ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-09  1:11         ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-02-09  1:36           ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-09  2:51           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-02-09  9:55             ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-02-09 19:22               ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-20 14:57     ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-20 16:56       ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-02-21 16:19         ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-21 23:17           ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-02-02 16:24 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/7] VPIDs: fork modifications Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-02 20:08   ` Cedric Le Goater
2006-02-02 16:26 ` [RFC][PATCH 4/7] VPIDs: vpid macros in non-VPID case Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-02 16:30 ` [RFC][PATCH 5/7] VPIDs: vpid/pid conversion in VPID enabled case Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-02 17:05   ` Dave Hansen
2006-02-02 19:29     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-02-03 10:52     ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-02-03 12:48       ` Cedric Le Goater
2006-02-03 14:02         ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-02-03 16:25           ` Dave Hansen
2006-02-06 11:24             ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-02-03 17:05           ` Cedric Le Goater
2006-02-06  9:48             ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-02-06 14:51               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-02-06 15:51                 ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-02-06 16:24                   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-02-07  9:46                   ` Cedric Le Goater
2006-02-07 11:44                     ` Kirill Korotaev [this message]
2006-02-07 12:59                       ` Cedric Le Goater
2006-02-07  9:15               ` Cedric Le Goater
2006-02-03 14:05         ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-03 15:40           ` Cedric Le Goater
2006-02-03 16:28             ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-02 16:31 ` [RFC][PATCH 6/7] VPIDs: small proc VPID export Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-02 16:33 ` [RFC][PATCH 7/7] VPIDs: required VPS interface for VPIDs Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-03  3:01 ` [RFC][PATCH] VPIDs: Virtualization of PIDs (OpenVZ approach) Herbert Poetzl
2006-02-03 10:30   ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-03 12:45   ` Alexey Kuznetsov

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