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From: Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>
To: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
Cc: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@SteelEye.com>,
	James.Smart@Emulex.Com,
	SCSI Mailing List <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Regarding ordered-tag support.
Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 13:12:00 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <43EAC110.5030700@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <43EA329F.2000906@pobox.com>

Jeff Garzik wrote:
> James Bottomley wrote:
> 
>> I suppose I'm a broken record, but I really think linked tasks are the
>> better way to enforce the required ordering guarantees for SCSI TCQ.
>> The problem being that this would present a slightly different API at
>> the block level (you have individual writes that are now ordered, not
>> wholesale barriers).
> 
> I strongly agree, since fundamentally, linked tasks is what is really 
> going on.

Hello, James.  Hello, Jeff.

Maybe I have misunderstood, but, AFAICS, linked task doesn't assure any 
ordering relation with respect to other tasks unlike ordered tag.  So, 
it doesn't make much difference compared to simple & stupid ordering by 
draining.  For a barrier to work, the following order should be kept.

pre-barrier writes -> cache flush -> barrier write (FUA) -> other writes

Issuing cache flush and barrier write with ordered tags accomplishes all 
the ordering requirements (if it works, that is.).  I can see linked 
task can be used for 'cache flush -> barrier write (FUA)' segment but 
that leaves us with two unhandled ordering requirements.

Another thing I'm curious about linked task is what advantages linked 
task has over simply issuing and completing the commands sequentially. 
Commands in a linked task has to be issued and completed sequentially 
anyway, so I don't really see the difference.

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

  reply	other threads:[~2006-02-09  4:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-02-08  6:40 Regarding ordered-tag support Tejun Heo
2006-02-08 15:49 ` James Bottomley
2006-02-08 16:10   ` Tejun
2006-02-08 16:25     ` James Smart
2006-02-08 16:57       ` Tejun
2006-02-08 17:07         ` James Bottomley
2006-02-08 17:18           ` Tejun
2006-02-08 17:27             ` James Bottomley
2006-02-08 18:04               ` Jeff Garzik
2006-02-09  4:12                 ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2006-02-09 17:20                   ` James Bottomley
2006-02-10  0:45                     ` Tejun Heo
2006-02-08 16:26     ` James Bottomley
2006-02-08 16:22   ` James Smart
2006-02-08 20:50     ` James Bottomley
2006-02-08 20:59       ` James Bottomley

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