From: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@domain.hid>
To: Anders Blomdell <anders.blomdell@domain.hid>
Cc: xenomai@xenomai.org
Subject: Re: [Xenomai-core] More on Shared interrupts
Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 17:39:24 +0100 [thread overview]
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Anders Blomdell wrote:
> For the last few days, I have tried to figure out a good way to share
> interrupts between RT and non-RT domains. This has included looking
> through Dmitry's patch, correcting bugs and testing what is possible in
> my specific case. I'll therefore try to summarize at least a few of my
> thoughts.
>
> 1. When looking through Dmitry's patch I get the impression that the
> iack handler has very little to do with each interrupt (the test
> 'prev->iack != intr->iack' is a dead giveaway), but is more of a
> domain-specific function (or perhaps even just a placeholder for the
> hijacked Linux ack-function).
>
>
> 2. Somewhat inspired by the figure in "Life with Adeos", I have
> identified the following cases:
>
> irq K | ----------- | ---o | // Linux only
> ...
> irq L | ---o | | // RT-only
> ...
> irq M | ---o------- | ---o | // Shared between domains
> ...
> irq N | ---o---o--- | | // Shared inside single domain
> ...
> irq O | ---o---o--- | ---o | // Shared between and inside single
> domain
>
> Xenomai currently handles the K & L cases, Dmitrys patch addresses the N
> case, with edge triggered interrupts the M (and O after Dmitry's patch)
> case(s) might be handled by returning RT_INTR_CHAINED | RT_INTR_ENABLE
> from the interrupt handler, for level triggered interrupt the M and O
> cases can't be handled.
I guess you mean it the other way around: for the edge-triggered
cross-domain case we would actually have to loop over both the RT and
the Linux handlers until we are sure, that the IRQ line was released once.
Luckily, I never saw such a scenario which were unavoidable (it hits you
with ISA hardware which tend to have nice IRQ jumpers or other means -
it's just that you often cannot divide several controllers on the same
extension card IRQ-wise apart).
>
> If one looks more closely at the K case (Linux only interrupt), it works
> by when an interrupt occurs, the call to irq_end is postponed until the
> Linux interrupt handler has run, i.e. further interrupts are disabled.
> This can be seen as a lazy version of Philippe's idea of disabling all
> non-RT interrupts until the RT-domain is idle, i.e. the interrupt is
> disabled only if it indeed occurs.
>
> If this idea should be generalized to the M (and O) case(s), one can't
> rely on postponing the irq_end call (since the interrupt is still needed
> in the RT-domain), but has to rely on some function that disables all
> non-RT hardware that generates interrupts on that irq-line; such a
> function naturally has to have intimate knowledge of all hardware that
> can generate interrupts in order to be able to disable those interrupt
> sources that are non-RT.
>
> If we then take Jan's observation about the many (Linux-only) interrupts
> present in an ordinary PC and add it to Philippe's idea of disabling all
> non-RT interrupts while executing in the RT-domain, I think that the
> following is a workable (and fairly efficient) way of handling this:
>
> Add hardware dependent enable/disable functions, where the enable is
> called just before normal execution in a domain starts (i.e. when
> playing back interrupts, the disable is still in effect), and disable is
> called when normal domain execution end. This does effectively handle
> the K case above, with the added benefit that NO non-RT interrupts will
> occur during RT execution.
>
> In the 8259 case, the disable function could look something like:
>
> domain_irq_disable(uint irqmask) {
> if (irqmask & 0xff00 != 0xff00) {
> irqmask &= ~0x0004; // Cascaded interrupt is still needed
> outb(irqmask >> 8, PIC_SLAVE_IMR);
> }
> outb(irqmask, PIC_MASTER_IMR);
> }
>
> If we should extend this to handle the M (and O) case(s), the disable
> function could look like:
>
> domain_irq_disable(uint irqmask, shared_irq_t *shared[]) {
> int i;
>
> for (i = 0 ; i < MAX_IRQ ; i++) {
> if (shared[i]) {
> shared_irq_t *next = shared[i];
> irqmask &= ~(1<<i);
> while (next) {
> next->disable();
> next = next->next;
> }
This obviously means that all non-RT IRQ handlers sharing a line with
the RT domain would have to be registered in that shared[]-list. This
gets close to my old suggestion. Just raises the question how to
organise these interface, both on the RT and the Linux side.
> }
> }
> if (irqmask & 0xff00 != 0xff00) {
> irqmask &= ~0x0004; // Cascaded interrupt is still needed
> outb(irqmask >> 8, PIC_SLAVE_IMR);
> }
> outb(irqmask, PIC_MASTER_IMR);
> }
>
> An obvious optimization of the above scheme, is to never call the
> disable (or enable) function for the RT-domain, since there all
> interrupt processing is protected by the hardware.
Another point is to avoid that looping over disable handlers for IRQs of
the K case. Otherwise, too many device-specific disable handlers had to
be implemented even if only a single Linux device hogs a RT IRQ.
>
> Comments, anyone?
>
I see your need, we just have to keep in mind that we are currently
discussing the corner case (shared RT/non-RT IRQs) of the corner case
(shared RT IRQs). Whatever will be defined, the normal use case should
define how an efficient interface has to look like. Or we have to add a
lot of #ifdef's...
Jan
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-02-09 16:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-02-07 9:04 [Xenomai-core] [Combo-PATCH] Shared interrupts (final) Dmitry Adamushko
2006-02-07 9:58 ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2006-02-07 17:58 ` Jan Kiszka
2006-02-08 7:26 ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2006-02-08 8:24 ` Jan Kiszka
2006-02-08 10:12 ` Dmitry Adamushko
2006-02-08 10:57 ` Philippe Gerum
2006-02-09 8:30 ` Anders Blomdell
2006-02-09 9:11 ` Jan Kiszka
2006-02-09 10:07 ` Philippe Gerum
2006-02-09 9:59 ` Philippe Gerum
2006-02-09 10:19 ` Jan Kiszka
2006-02-09 11:11 ` Dmitry Adamushko
2006-02-09 15:46 ` [Xenomai-core] More on Shared interrupts Anders Blomdell
2006-02-09 16:39 ` Jan Kiszka [this message]
2006-02-10 8:04 ` Anders Blomdell
2006-02-10 13:59 ` [Xenomai-core] " Philippe Gerum
2006-02-11 11:35 ` Dmitry Adamushko
2006-02-13 7:49 ` Anders Blomdell
2006-02-13 11:00 ` Dmitry Adamushko
2006-02-14 17:46 ` Philippe Gerum
2006-02-16 16:05 ` [Xenomai-core] " Anders Blomdell
2006-02-09 11:14 ` [Xenomai-core] [Combo-PATCH] Shared interrupts (final) Philippe Gerum
2006-02-09 10:43 ` Anders Blomdell
2006-02-07 19:24 ` Dmitry Adamushko
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