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From: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>
To: Steven Hand <Steven.Hand@cl.cam.ac.uk>
Cc: Noam Taich <noam.taich@qumranet.com>,
	xen-devel@lists.xensource.com, veillard@redhat.com
Subject: Re: Domain save/migrate issue
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 08:55:39 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <43F1EF6B.7010304@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1F91Pt-0000lP-00@mta1.cl.cam.ac.uk>

Steven Hand wrote:
>>   I tend to agree, it's about having orthogonal APIs, I think you can build
>> the current behaviour by a sequence of the simpler save and a destroy (though
>> it would not be atomic anymore). Is there any strong reason a saved domain
>> must not be left running ?
>>     
>
> Unless you also have some way to simulataneously snapshot the file
> system, it is not safe to allow the guest to continue and then later
> resume the checkpointed version. 
>   
There are storage devices that provide this capability.  Also, Dan Smith 
is working on a COW device for Xen that could be used to checkpoint a 
storage device.

However, there's a fair bit of work that would be needed to allow for 
light-weight checkpointing.  A domain has to be suspended for the 
checkpoint to finish (although presumably one could use a similar as 
live migration to get most of the way there).  Today, in Xen, there is 
no way to get out of a suspended state.

If a domain could leave the suspended state, it would make checkpointing 
pretty cheap.  Also, presumably, it would simplify rebooting because 
instead of having to recreate a domain on reboot, the hypervisor could 
just reinit it.  Of course, it would need some way of knowing how to 
build the domain...

Regards,

Anthony Liguori
> S.
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  reply	other threads:[~2006-02-14 14:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-02-14 14:08 Domain save/migrate issue Noam Taich
2006-02-14 14:41 ` Daniel Veillard
2006-02-14 14:44   ` Steven Hand
2006-02-14 14:55     ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2006-02-14 14:57     ` Daniel Veillard
2006-02-15 11:28 ` Jacob Gorm Hansen
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-02-15 16:42 Noam Taich
2006-02-15 16:22 Noam Taich
2006-02-15 16:26 ` Anthony Liguori
2006-02-15  9:32 Noam Taich
2006-02-15  8:38 Noam Taich
2006-02-15 14:16 ` Anthony Liguori
2006-02-14 13:45 Noam Taich

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