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From: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
To: Kyle Moffett <mrmacman_g4@mac.com>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>, Albert Cahalan <acahalan@gmail.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	rmatthias.andree@gmx.de
Subject: Re: CD writing in future Linux (stirring up a hornets' nest)
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 11:20:02 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <43F4A632.8000500@tmr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <74B203F5-441F-4953-A95D-FEA162700876@mac.com>

Kyle Moffett wrote:

> On Jan 30, 2006, at 17:52, Bill Davidsen wrote:
>
>> What is not easily available in Linux is a nice single place to  find 
>> out what mass storage (disk/optical/floppy/ZIP/LS120/tape)  devices 
>> are on the system, and what the system calls them.
>
>
> Yes it is available, and a whole slew of GUI applications use it.   
> It's called "hal", or Hardware Abstraction Layer, and it has small  
> hooks into udev and a bit of sysfs code so that it has a list of all  
> devices of various types and knows what their associated udev-created  
> device nodes are.  This means that I can configure udev to put my CD  
> drive on /dev/burner and correctly written GUI programs will just  
> find it and work.

I was really talking about something stable. HAL is an application, and 
as such has to be changed avery time some developer has a bad dream and 
changes the interface, moves a comtrol or report from /proc to /sys, or 
otherwise requires a new way of interpreting the data. If you will, HAL 
*in* the kernel where it must work.

> -- 
> I have yet to see any problem, however complicated, which, when you  
> looked at it in the right way, did not become still more complicated.
>   -- Poul Anderson

-- 

bill davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
  CTO TMR Associates, Inc
  Doing interesting things with small computers since 1979


  reply	other threads:[~2006-02-16 16:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 722+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-01-25  3:23 CD writing in future Linux (stirring up a hornets' nest) Albert Cahalan
2006-01-25 14:26 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-25 14:45   ` Jens Axboe
2006-01-25 15:13     ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-25 15:30       ` Jens Axboe
2006-01-25 17:03         ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-25 17:11           ` Matthias Andree
2006-01-25 17:18           ` grundig
2006-01-25 17:31             ` Jens Axboe
2006-01-25 18:22               ` Matthias Andree
2006-01-25 18:25                 ` Jens Axboe
2006-01-25 23:14                   ` Matthias Andree
2006-01-26  1:13                     ` grundig
2006-01-26  8:23                       ` Matthias Andree
2006-01-26 13:56                         ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-26 18:47                           ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-30 21:58                           ` Bill Davidsen
2006-01-26 13:41                       ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-26  0:36                 ` Nix
2006-01-26 13:39                   ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-10 21:06                   ` Bill Davidsen
2006-02-10 23:42                     ` sean
2006-02-10 23:42                       ` sean
2006-02-10 23:51                     ` Christian Neumair
2006-02-13 13:24                       ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-13 13:55                         ` Martin Mares
2006-02-13 15:17                           ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-18 13:47                             ` Bill Davidsen
2006-02-19  1:10                               ` D. Hazelton
2006-02-19  9:20                                 ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-20  1:53                                   ` D. Hazelton
2006-02-20 16:41                                     ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-20 18:40                                       ` D. Hazelton
2006-02-21 10:08                                         ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-21 10:20                                           ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-21  4:11                                       ` D. Hazelton
2006-02-21 10:36                                         ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-24 19:46                                           ` Christian Neumair
2006-02-27 11:32                                             ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-20 16:05                               ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-20 18:53                                 ` D. Hazelton
2006-02-20 22:30                                   ` Martin Schlemmer
2006-02-21  8:32                                   ` Jens Axboe
2006-02-21 10:19                                   ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-21 10:23                                     ` Jens Axboe
2006-02-13 14:07                         ` jerome lacoste
2006-02-13 15:26                           ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-13 15:42                             ` jerome lacoste
2006-02-13 16:43                         ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-13 17:27                           ` Luke-Jr
2006-02-14  8:11                             ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-14  0:01                         ` D. Hazelton
2006-02-14 13:59                           ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-10 23:56                     ` Greg KH
2006-02-12 12:04                       ` Olivier Galibert
2006-02-12 16:46                         ` Greg KH
2006-02-12 21:14                           ` Olivier Galibert
2006-02-12 21:49                             ` Krzysztof Halasa
2006-02-13  6:24                             ` Greg KH
2006-02-13 16:49                               ` Olivier Galibert
2006-02-13 17:50                                 ` Greg KH
2006-02-13 19:53                                   ` Device enumeration (was Re: CD writing in future Linux (stirring up a hornets' nest)) Olivier Galibert
2006-02-14  5:23                                     ` Andrew James Wade
2006-02-14 10:40                                       ` Olivier Galibert
2006-02-14 22:24                                         ` Greg KH
2006-02-14 23:00                                           ` Olivier Galibert
2006-02-14 23:45                                             ` Greg KH
2006-02-15 15:01                                               ` Olivier Galibert
2006-02-14 22:32                                         ` Rob Landley
2006-02-14 23:17                                           ` Olivier Galibert
2006-02-15  0:24                                             ` Rob Landley
2006-02-15  0:54                                               ` Greg KH
2006-02-15  3:18                                                 ` Rob Landley
2006-02-15 16:55                                               ` Olivier Galibert
2006-02-15 18:19                                                 ` Rob Landley
2006-02-14 23:32                                           ` Olivier Galibert
2006-02-15  1:50                                             ` Rob Landley
2006-02-14 23:47                                           ` Greg KH
2006-02-15  2:07                                             ` Rob Landley
2006-02-15 13:42                                         ` Andrew James Wade
2006-02-15 14:54                                           ` Olivier Galibert
2006-02-14 11:53                                     ` Michael Tokarev
2006-02-13  5:01                       ` CD writing in future Linux (stirring up a hornets' nest) Daniel Barkalow
2006-02-13  6:21                         ` Greg KH
2006-02-13  8:05                           ` Daniel Barkalow
2006-02-13 17:51                             ` Greg KH
2006-02-13 18:03                               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2006-02-13 19:09                                 ` Daniel Barkalow
2006-02-17 21:35                                   ` Bill Davidsen
2006-02-18  0:02                                     ` D. Hazelton
2006-02-18 16:56                                       ` Bill Davidsen
2006-02-19  0:29                                         ` D. Hazelton
2006-02-18  0:35                                     ` Greg KH
2006-02-18 12:06                                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-02-18 13:37                                       ` Martin Michlmayr
2006-02-18 13:52                                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-02-19 12:04                                           ` Jens Axboe
2006-02-18 17:15                                       ` Gene Heskett
2006-02-19  0:41                                         ` D. Hazelton
2006-02-19  5:44                                           ` Gene Heskett
2006-02-19  9:27                                           ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-27 20:23                                             ` Bill Davidsen
2006-02-19 18:50                                         ` Daniel Barkalow
2006-02-18 18:36                                       ` Chris Adams
2006-02-19  1:05                                         ` D. Hazelton
2006-02-27 20:24                                         ` Bill Davidsen
2006-02-27 21:21                                           ` Chris Adams
2006-02-27 21:47                                             ` D. Hazelton
2006-02-27 22:30                                               ` Peter Gordon
2006-02-27 22:24                                                 ` D. Hazelton
2006-02-28  0:44                                                   ` Sam Vilain
2006-02-13 13:26                       ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-13 15:49                         ` Greg KH
2006-02-14 18:59                           ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-14 19:53                             ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-14 19:58                               ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-14 20:25                                 ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-14 22:35                                 ` D. Hazelton
2006-02-14 22:32                             ` D. Hazelton
2006-02-14 18:59                           ` Olivier Galibert
2006-02-14 19:01                           ` Bill Davidsen
2006-02-14 22:33                             ` Nix
2006-02-15 15:44                           ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-15 16:40                             ` Olivier Galibert
2006-02-15 17:07                             ` Greg KH
2006-02-13 22:14                         ` Nix
2006-02-14  0:03                           ` D. Hazelton
2006-02-14  0:32                             ` Nix
2006-02-14  9:22                           ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-14 18:09                             ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-14 18:41                               ` Olivier Galibert
2006-02-17 15:36                                 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-14 11:27                           ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-14 22:30                             ` Greg KH
2006-02-15  0:43                               ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-15  5:20                                 ` Greg KH
2006-02-16 12:01                                   ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-16 16:51                                     ` Randy.Dunlap
2006-02-16 18:03                                     ` Greg KH
2006-02-14 22:40                             ` Nix
2006-02-16 12:09                               ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-16 12:36                                 ` Martin Mares
2006-02-17  0:38                                   ` Nix
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2006-02-18 21:04                                     ` Martin Mares
2006-02-18 22:00                                       ` Ondrej Zary
2006-02-16 12:55                                 ` Marc Koschewski
2006-02-13 12:11                     ` Joerg Schilling
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2006-02-13 15:12                         ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-13 16:40                           ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-13 23:24                           ` D. Hazelton
2006-02-14 13:55                             ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-14 21:59                               ` D. Hazelton
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2006-02-18 20:00                                   ` Nix
2006-01-26 10:11                 ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-25 19:04               ` Olivier Galibert
2006-01-26  9:38             ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-26  9:45               ` Lee Revell
2006-01-26 13:58                 ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-26 14:09                   ` Nick Piggin
2006-01-26 14:32                     ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-26 15:16                       ` Nick Piggin
2006-01-26 16:04                       ` Matthias Andree
2006-01-26 15:38               ` grundig
2006-01-25 19:00           ` Tomasz Torcz
2006-01-26 10:25             ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-26 10:56               ` Tomasz Torcz
2006-01-26 14:11                 ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-25 22:01         ` jerome lacoste
2006-01-26 12:13           ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-26 12:39             ` Martin Mares
2006-01-26 14:14               ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-26 20:42         ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-27  8:00           ` Jens Axboe
2006-01-30 22:52             ` Bill Davidsen
2006-01-31  2:04               ` Kyle Moffett
2006-02-16 16:20                 ` Bill Davidsen [this message]
2006-02-16 17:45                   ` Olivier Galibert
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2006-02-09 17:38 Zoltan Boszormenyi
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2006-02-03 13:54                           ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-03 19:30                             ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-06 14:46                               ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-06 17:37                                 ` René Rebe
2006-02-06 17:43                                 ` Bodo Eggert
2006-02-07 10:56                                 ` Matthias Andree
2006-01-25  2:58 Albert Cahalan
2006-01-25 16:31 ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-25 16:56   ` Kyle Moffett
2006-01-25 17:08     ` Matthias Andree
2006-01-25 17:18       ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-25 17:30         ` Matthias Andree
2006-01-26  9:50           ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-26 10:34             ` jerome lacoste
2006-01-26 14:03               ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-26 18:23                 ` Gene Heskett
2006-01-26 19:38                 ` jerome lacoste
2006-01-27  5:24                 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-01-27 13:15                   ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-27 14:09                     ` Kyle Moffett
2006-01-27 23:28                     ` Matthias Andree
2006-01-26 11:09             ` Matthias Andree
2006-01-25 18:17         ` Jens Axboe
2006-01-25 17:14     ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-25 18:05       ` Kyle Moffett
2006-01-26 10:06         ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-26 10:40           ` Matthias Andree
2006-01-26 14:05             ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-26 15:30               ` sean
2006-01-26 15:30                 ` sean
2006-01-25 23:08       ` Matthias Andree
2006-01-26 12:27         ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-26 16:10           ` Vojtech Pavlik
2006-01-26 17:55             ` Olivier Galibert
2006-01-26 18:10               ` Vojtech Pavlik
2006-01-26 18:28                 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-01-26 18:38                   ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-26 19:07                     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2006-01-26 19:24                       ` Vojtech Pavlik
2006-01-26 19:51                         ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-26 19:22                     ` Vojtech Pavlik
2006-01-26 19:21                   ` Vojtech Pavlik
2006-01-26 19:28                   ` Diego Calleja
2006-01-26 19:44                     ` Olivier Galibert
2006-01-26 20:13                       ` Diego Calleja
2006-01-27 14:30             ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-27 16:44               ` James Courtier-Dutton
2006-01-27 17:01                 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-30 11:43                   ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-30 12:04                     ` Matthias Andree
2006-01-30 12:23                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-01-30 16:15                         ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-04 11:17                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-01-30 16:12                       ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-30 16:30                         ` Matthias Andree
2006-01-30 16:34                           ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-30 17:05                             ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-01 15:01                               ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-30 16:35                         ` Jeff Garzik
2006-01-30 16:46                           ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-01 15:06                             ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-01 17:01                               ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-02 16:17                                 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-03 11:32                                   ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-03 13:45                                     ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-30 17:38                     ` Jürg Billeter
2006-01-31 10:30                       ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-31 11:11                         ` Martin Mares
2006-01-31 13:27                           ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-31 13:41                             ` Matthias Andree
2006-01-31 13:42                             ` Martin Mares
2006-02-01 15:19                             ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-01 21:49                               ` Ian Kester-Haney
2006-02-02  9:42                               ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-02  9:54                                 ` Martin Mares
2006-02-02 10:14                                 ` Matthias Andree
2006-01-31 12:10                         ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2006-01-31 13:35                           ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-31 13:42                             ` Matthias Andree
2006-01-31 13:49                             ` Martin Mares
2006-01-31 14:23                             ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2006-02-01 15:34                               ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-01 15:49                                 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2006-02-02  9:49                                 ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-02 10:20                                   ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-02 11:28                                     ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-02 12:46                                       ` Martin Mares
2006-02-02 10:21                                   ` Martin Mares
2006-02-02 13:18                                   ` Jens Axboe
2006-02-02 16:12                                   ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-31 12:24                         ` jerome lacoste
2006-01-31 12:33                           ` Oliver Neukum
2006-01-31 12:44                             ` Denis Vlasenko
2006-02-01 15:37                               ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-01 15:55                                 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2006-02-02 15:24                                   ` Albert Cahalan
2006-02-01 15:56                                 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2006-02-01 16:28                                   ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-01 17:51                                     ` Kyle Moffett
2006-02-02  7:59                             ` Xavier Bestel
2006-02-02 11:19                               ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-02 11:34                                 ` Xavier Bestel
2006-02-02 12:51                                   ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-02 13:02                                     ` Xavier Bestel
2006-02-03  9:55                                       ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-03 10:05                                         ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-03 13:57                                           ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-03 15:50                                           ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-03 10:57                                         ` Xavier Bestel
2006-02-02 13:24                                     ` grundig
2006-02-03 10:06                                       ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-03 10:39                                         ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-02 16:20                                   ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-03  8:11                                     ` Alexander Samad
2006-01-31 12:32                         ` Juerg Billeter
2006-01-31 13:37                           ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-31 13:44                             ` Martin Mares
2006-02-02  6:28                             ` Jim Crilly
2006-02-02 11:17                               ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-02 11:37                                 ` grundig
2006-02-02 12:15                                 ` Martin Mares
2006-02-02 12:24                                 ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-02 16:18                                 ` Jim Crilly
2006-02-02 17:17                                   ` Albert Cahalan
2006-02-02 20:39                                     ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-02 21:09                                       ` Jim Crilly
2006-02-02 21:20                                         ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-02 21:46                                           ` Jim Crilly
2006-02-03 13:36                                             ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-03  2:27                                           ` Albert Cahalan
2006-02-03 13:47                                             ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-03 15:20                                             ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-03 15:53                                               ` Jim Crilly
2006-02-03 16:54                                                 ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-03 17:49                                                 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2006-02-03 18:35                                                   ` Jim Crilly
2006-02-03 18:57                                                   ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-03 18:04                                                 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-02-03 18:13                                                   ` Kay Sievers
2006-02-03 18:45                                                     ` Olivier Galibert
2006-02-03 18:37                                                   ` Jim Crilly
2006-02-04 15:35                                                     ` Krzysztof Halasa
2006-02-04 15:43                                                       ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-04 18:33                                                         ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-05  7:40                                                       ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-05 16:04                                                         ` Krzysztof Halasa
2006-02-05 16:15                                                         ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-05 17:50                                                           ` Kyle Moffett
2006-02-05 21:15                                                             ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-05 22:27                                                             ` Neil Brown
2006-02-06 11:15                                                               ` Krzysztof Halasa
2006-02-06 14:58                                                                 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-06 18:17                                                                   ` Krzysztof Halasa
2006-02-06 18:37                                                                     ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-09 16:09                                                                       ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-03 19:50                                                   ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-03 20:47                                                     ` Olivier Galibert
2006-02-03 21:06                                                       ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-04  0:02                                                         ` Olivier Galibert
2006-02-04 16:56                                                           ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-03 16:10                                               ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-03 16:56                                                 ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-03 19:06                                                   ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-03 19:15                                                     ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-04 11:08                                                       ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-03 19:22                                                     ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-03 20:01                                                   ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-02 21:25                                         ` Lee Revell
2006-02-02 21:49                                           ` Jim Crilly
2006-02-02 21:54                                             ` Lee Revell
2006-02-02 21:56                                             ` Lee Revell
2006-02-03  8:54                                               ` Jens Axboe
2006-02-03 13:29                                           ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-03 13:51                                             ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-03 14:05                                               ` Kay Sievers
2006-02-03 16:48                                                 ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-03 16:47                                               ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-03 13:25                                         ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-31 16:43                         ` Paul Jakma
2006-02-01  5:07                           ` Albert Cahalan
2006-02-01 21:45                             ` Paul Jakma
2006-01-30 21:02                     ` Bill Davidsen
2006-01-30 11:25                 ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-26  2:26   ` Albert Cahalan
2006-01-26  8:19     ` Matthias Andree
2006-01-26 13:53       ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-26 13:50     ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-26 16:56       ` Matan Peled
2006-01-27 11:05         ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-26 18:42       ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-27  0:19       ` Albert Cahalan
2006-01-27  0:40         ` Kyle Moffett
2006-01-27  8:21         ` Xavier Bestel
2006-01-27  8:26         ` DervishD
2006-01-30 21:49         ` Bill Davidsen
2006-01-30 21:57           ` Matthias Andree
2006-01-30 22:12           ` Lee Revell
2006-02-16 16:15             ` Bill Davidsen
     [not found] <5y7B5-1dw-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
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     [not found]     ` <5ydni-1Qq-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]       ` <5yek1-3iP-53@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]         ` <5yeth-3us-33@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]           ` <5yf5O-4iF-19@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]             ` <5yfI4-5kU-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]               ` <5ygE4-6LK-35@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]                 ` <5yhqg-7ZR-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
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2006-01-24  9:14                     ` CD writing in future Linux (stirring up a hornets' nest) (was: Rationale for RLIMIT_MEMLOCK?) Bodo Eggert
2006-01-24 14:38                       ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-24 17:44                         ` CD writing in future Linux (stirring up a hornets' nest) Bodo Eggert
2006-01-23 11:05 Rationale for RLIMIT_MEMLOCK? Arjan van de Ven
2006-01-23 16:54 ` Matthias Andree
2006-01-23 17:00   ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-01-23 18:01     ` Matthias Andree
2006-01-23 18:13       ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-01-23 18:55         ` Matthias Andree
2006-01-23 19:38           ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-23 20:30             ` Lee Revell
2006-01-23 21:21               ` CD writing in future Linux (stirring up a hornets' nest) (was: Rationale for RLIMIT_MEMLOCK?) Matthias Andree
2006-01-24 17:42                 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-24 18:18                   ` CD writing in future Linux (stirring up a hornets' nest) Matthias Andree
2006-01-24 20:54                     ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-25 15:26                       ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-25 15:13                     ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-25 14:04                   ` CD writing in future Linux (stirring up a hornets' nest) (was: Rationale for RLIMIT_MEMLOCK?) Joerg Schilling
2006-01-25 14:21                     ` Jens Axboe
2006-01-25 14:47                       ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-25 14:55                         ` Jens Axboe
2006-01-25 17:00                           ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-25 17:10                             ` CD writing in future Linux (stirring up a hornets' nest) Matthias Andree
2006-01-25 17:20                               ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-25 17:27                                 ` Jens Axboe
2006-01-25 23:19                                 ` Matthias Andree
2006-01-26 12:30                                   ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-26 12:58                                     ` Matthias Andree
2006-01-26 14:19                                       ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-26 21:02                                       ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-26 21:40                                         ` Matthias Andree
2006-01-25 17:24                               ` Jens Axboe
2006-01-26  9:35                               ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-26  9:48                                 ` Jens Axboe
2006-01-26 10:10                                   ` Matthias Andree
2006-01-26 14:01                                     ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-23 10:56 Rationale for RLIMIT_MEMLOCK? Matthias Andree
2006-02-02 17:17 ` CD writing in future Linux (stirring up a hornets' nest) (was: Rationale for RLIMIT_MEMLOCK?) Luke-Jr
2006-02-03 14:08   ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-03 17:24     ` Luke-Jr
2006-02-06 13:51       ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-06 15:06         ` Peter Read
2006-02-06 15:15           ` CD writing in future Linux (stirring up a hornets' nest) Matthias Andree
2006-02-06 20:54             ` Jim Crilly
2006-02-07 13:06               ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-07 13:18                 ` Martin Mares
2006-02-07 13:47                 ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-07 18:37                 ` Jim Crilly
2006-02-08 13:27                   ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-08 13:45                     ` sean
2006-02-08 13:45                       ` sean
2006-02-08 13:51                     ` Martin Mares
2006-02-08 14:12                     ` Keith Duthie
2006-02-08 16:28                     ` Jim Crilly
2006-02-08 16:32                       ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-08 16:53                         ` Jim Crilly
2006-02-09  9:39                           ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-09 10:00                             ` Martin Mares
2006-02-09 23:14                               ` Kyle Moffett
2006-02-10  1:52                                 ` Jim Crilly
2006-02-10 12:24                                   ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-10 12:15                                 ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-09 12:37                                   ` D. Hazelton
2006-02-10 13:02                                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-02-17 20:55                                       ` Bill Davidsen
2006-02-17 21:01                                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-02-18 16:44                                           ` Bill Davidsen
2006-02-18 16:58                                             ` sean
2006-02-18 16:58                                               ` sean
2006-02-10 16:32                                   ` Luke-Jr
2006-02-09 10:41                             ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-09 13:35                               ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-09 14:00                                 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-09 10:50                             ` Ralf Müller
2006-02-09 16:30                             ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-09 16:47                               ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-09 17:15                                 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-09 17:28                                   ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-09 17:36                                     ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-09 17:37                                       ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-10 10:58                                       ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-09 17:36                                     ` Martin Mares
2006-02-10 10:59                                       ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-10 11:47                                         ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-10 12:35                                           ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-09 12:57                                             ` D. Hazelton
2006-02-10 13:03                                               ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-10  3:21                                                 ` D. Hazelton
2006-02-13 13:40                                                   ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-13 13:52                                                     ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-13 15:15                                                       ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-13 23:26                                                         ` D. Hazelton
2006-02-13 14:07                                                     ` Martin Mares
2006-02-13 15:29                                                       ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-13 16:11                                                         ` Jim Crilly
2006-02-13 22:54                                                         ` D. Hazelton
2006-02-14  5:09                                                         ` Alexander Samad
2006-02-13 23:13                                                     ` D. Hazelton
2006-02-10 13:25                                                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2006-02-10  3:36                                                   ` D. Hazelton
2006-02-10 15:38                                                 ` jerome lacoste
2006-02-10  3:41                                                   ` D. Hazelton
2006-02-13 13:44                                                     ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-13 14:08                                                       ` jerome lacoste
2006-02-13 15:26                                                         ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-13 15:47                                                           ` jerome lacoste
2006-02-13 16:19                                                             ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-13 23:01                                                       ` D. Hazelton
2006-02-14 13:37                                                         ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-14 14:24                                                           ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-14 16:55                                                             ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-14 22:27                                                               ` D. Hazelton
2006-02-14 18:43                                                           ` Jim Crilly
2006-02-14 19:06                                                             ` Olivier Galibert
2006-02-14 22:15                                                           ` D. Hazelton
2006-02-14  1:05                                                       ` kernel
2006-02-14 14:03                                                         ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-10 16:23                                                   ` Gene Heskett
2006-02-13 10:40                                                   ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-13 10:52                                                     ` Martin Mares
2006-02-13 14:57                                                       ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-13 15:03                                                         ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-13 16:29                                                         ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-13 16:34                                                           ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-14  8:08                                                             ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-13 16:30                                                       ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-14  5:19                                                       ` Marcin Dalecki
2006-02-14  9:20                                                         ` Martin Mares
2006-02-14 10:03                                                           ` D. Hazelton
2006-02-14 15:11                                                             ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-14 14:25                                                           ` Lennart Sorensen
2006-02-13 12:07                                                     ` jerome lacoste
2006-02-13 15:04                                                       ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-13 15:24                                                         ` jerome lacoste
2006-02-13 15:49                                                           ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-13 16:05                                                             ` jerome lacoste
2006-02-13 16:24                                                               ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-13 16:34                                                                 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-13 16:37                                                                   ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-13 19:19                                                                     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-02-14 11:48                                                                       ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-14 12:21                                                                         ` D. Hazelton
2006-02-14 16:42                                                                           ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-14 16:57                                                                             ` grundig
2006-02-14 17:42                                                                               ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-14 22:22                                                                             ` D. Hazelton
2006-02-14 12:23                                                                         ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-14 22:51                                                                           ` Rob Landley
2006-02-14 23:24                                                                             ` Olivier Galibert
2006-02-15  0:26                                                                               ` Rob Landley
2006-02-15  2:19                                                                               ` D. Hazelton
2006-02-15  2:32                                                                                 ` grundig
2006-02-15  0:04                                                                             ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-15  2:55                                                                               ` Rob Landley
2006-02-15  6:13                                                                                 ` Anders Karlsson
2006-02-15  8:37                                                                                 ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-15 18:31                                                                                 ` Lennart Sorensen
2006-02-15 19:09                                                                                   ` Rob Landley
2006-02-15 19:16                                                                                     ` Doug McNaught
2006-02-15 19:47                                                                                       ` Rob Landley
2006-02-15 19:50                                                                                     ` Lennart Sorensen
2006-02-15 21:31                                                                                       ` Rob Landley
2006-02-17  9:06                                                                                         ` Helge Hafting
2006-02-17 13:07                                                                                           ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-17 15:33                                                                                       ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-16  3:06                                                                                     ` John Stoffel
2006-02-16  3:32                                                                                       ` Rob Landley
2006-02-16  4:08                                                                                         ` Alexander Samad
2006-02-17  8:54                                                                                 ` Helge Hafting
     [not found]                                                                         ` <515e525f0602140501j1f9fbe14x8a3eef0bbf179035@mail.gmail.com>
2006-02-14 16:47                                                                           ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-14 17:08                                                                             ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-14 18:05                                                                               ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-14 17:47                                                                             ` Lennart Sorensen
2006-02-14 18:42                                                                             ` Jim Crilly
2006-02-13 22:01                                                                     ` Carlo J. Calica
2006-02-13 16:36                                                                 ` Xavier Bestel
2006-02-13 17:12                                                                 ` jerome lacoste
2006-02-13 18:12                                                                   ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-14 11:31                                                                     ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-14 12:15                                                                       ` D. Hazelton
2006-02-14 16:40                                                                         ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-14 22:12                                                                           ` D. Hazelton
2006-02-14 12:43                                                                       ` jerome lacoste
2006-02-14 16:45                                                                         ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-13 22:57                                                     ` D. Hazelton
2006-02-13  0:44                                                 ` Alexander Samad
2006-02-13 14:12                                                 ` jerome lacoste
2006-02-10 12:41                                             ` Martin Mares
2006-02-10 12:59                                               ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-10 13:10                                                 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-10 13:22                                                   ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-10 14:16                                                     ` Theodore Ts'o
2006-02-10 14:32                                                       ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-10 14:45                                                         ` Christopher Friesen
2006-02-10 14:52                                                           ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-10 15:13                                                             ` Christopher Friesen
2006-02-10 15:32                                                               ` Chris Shoemaker
2006-02-10 15:53                                                                 ` Christopher Friesen
2006-02-10 18:48                                                                   ` Chris Shoemaker
2006-02-13 10:33                                                                 ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-13 10:30                                                               ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-13 10:55                                                                 ` Martin Mares
2006-02-13 12:01                                                                 ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-14  5:22                                                                   ` Marcin Dalecki
2006-02-13 23:35                                                                 ` D. Hazelton
2006-02-10 14:52                                                         ` Theodore Ts'o
2006-02-10 14:54                                                           ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-10 15:42                                                             ` Erik Mouw
2006-02-10 23:28                                                               ` Marc Koschewski
2006-02-10 15:57                                                             ` Theodore Ts'o
2006-02-13 10:45                                                               ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-13 12:15                                                                 ` Theodore Ts'o
2006-02-13 15:07                                                                   ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-13 15:26                                                                     ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-13 16:35                                                                     ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-10 16:24                                                             ` Diego Calleja
2006-02-13 10:47                                                               ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-13 15:36                                                                 ` Florin Malita
2006-02-13 15:56                                                                   ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-13 16:28                                                                     ` Diego Calleja
2006-02-13 16:38                                                                     ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-13 16:40                                                                     ` Florin Malita
2006-02-13 16:43                                                                       ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-13 17:16                                                                         ` Luke-Jr
2006-02-10 17:03                                                         ` Nikita Danilov
2006-02-12 10:01                                                         ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-13 14:07                                                           ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-13 14:24                                                             ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-13 16:25                                                               ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-13 10:14                                                     ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-13 10:54                                                       ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-10 22:40                                             ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-10 11:49                                         ` DervishD
2006-02-10 11:55                                           ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-10 12:15                                             ` DervishD
2006-02-10 12:36                                           ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-10 22:43                                             ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-12 23:17                                             ` Sam Vilain
2006-02-13 14:29                                               ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-13 14:50                                                 ` sean
2006-02-13 14:50                                                   ` sean
2006-02-13 15:36                                                   ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-13 15:45                                                     ` sean
2006-02-13 15:45                                                       ` sean
2006-02-13 16:10                                                     ` Martin Mares
2006-02-13 16:26                                                       ` Joerg Schilling
     [not found]                                                         ` <515e525f0602130834h1fd23146laf9daf354b1b8c75@mail.gmail.com>
2006-02-13 16:38                                                           ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-13 16:44                                                         ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-13 16:50                                                         ` Martin Mares
2006-02-13 16:56                                                           ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-13 17:14                                                             ` Martin Mares
2006-02-13 17:27                                                               ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-13 17:37                                                                 ` Martin Mares
2006-02-13 20:13                                                                 ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-14  8:01                                                                 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-13 17:22                                                         ` Luke-Jr
2006-02-13 17:40                                                           ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-13 17:48                                                             ` newbiz
2006-02-13 17:49                                                             ` Luke-Jr
2006-02-14 11:13                                                               ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-14 12:08                                                                 ` D. Hazelton
2006-02-14 16:35                                                                   ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-14 16:44                                                                     ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-14 16:45                                                                     ` grundig
2006-02-14 18:00                                                                     ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-13 19:20                                                             ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-13 23:42                                                         ` D. Hazelton
2006-02-14  8:04                                                           ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-14  8:25                                                             ` D. Hazelton
2006-02-14 15:04                                                             ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-14 16:53                                                               ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-14 17:41                                                                 ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-14 19:49                                                                   ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-14 19:56                                                                     ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-14 20:23                                                                       ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-14 22:10                                                               ` D. Hazelton
2006-02-16 11:42                                                                 ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-16 11:52                                                                   ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-16 18:06                                                                     ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-16 18:14                                                                       ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-17 10:29                                                                         ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-17 10:48                                                                           ` Martin Mares
2006-02-17 12:09                                                                           ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-17 20:45                                                                           ` D. Hazelton
2006-02-20 14:59                                                                             ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-20 18:33                                                                               ` D. Hazelton
2006-02-21  9:55                                                                                 ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-21 23:48                                                                                   ` D. Hazelton
2006-02-22 17:49                                                                                     ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-21  9:30                                                                               ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-16 19:26                                                                       ` Edgar Toernig
2006-02-17 10:49                                                                         ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-17 13:08                                                                           ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-16 22:42                                                                       ` D. Hazelton
2006-02-17 11:41                                                                         ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-17 12:01                                                                           ` Martin Mares
2006-02-17 13:22                                                                             ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-17 13:40                                                                               ` Martin Mares
2006-02-17 13:37                                                                           ` sean
2006-02-17 13:37                                                                             ` sean
2006-02-17 15:45                                                                           ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-17 21:52                                                                             ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-17 23:46                                                                               ` D. Hazelton
2006-02-17 20:02                                                                           ` D. Hazelton
2006-02-17 18:12                                                                             ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-20 14:51                                                                             ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-20 15:47                                                                               ` Martin Mares
2006-02-20 17:14                                                                               ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-20 18:02                                                                               ` D. Hazelton
2006-02-21  9:44                                                                                 ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-21 10:16                                                                                   ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-21 11:01                                                                                     ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-21 23:37                                                                                   ` D. Hazelton
2006-02-22 17:13                                                                                     ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-22 17:30                                                                                       ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-13 16:13                                                     ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-13 14:57                                                 ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-13 23:18                                                 ` D. Hazelton
2006-02-14 13:39                                                   ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-13  0:50                                           ` Alexander Samad
2006-02-13 14:33                                             ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-13 22:12                                               ` Lennart Sorensen
2006-02-13 23:21                                               ` D. Hazelton
2006-02-14  8:06                                               ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-09 17:36                                     ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-10 11:02                                       ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-10 13:13                                         ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-10 17:32                                         ` Michael Buesch
2006-02-09 17:15                               ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-10  4:49                             ` Alexander Samad
2006-02-08 22:52                         ` Martin Mares
     [not found]                         ` <43EA2A58.9070501@gmx.de>
     [not found]                           ` <43EB1067.nail52A2154ZR@burner>
2006-02-09 10:50                             ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-09 13:40                               ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-09 15:11                                 ` DervishD
2006-02-09 15:46                                   ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-09 16:32                                     ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-08 21:02                     ` DervishD
2006-02-08 21:14                       ` Lennart Sorensen
2006-02-08 21:26                         ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-09 17:54                           ` Lennart Sorensen
2006-02-09  9:02                         ` DervishD
2006-02-09 13:31                           ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-09 15:02                             ` DervishD
2006-02-09 15:45                               ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-09 15:57                                 ` Jim Crilly
2006-02-10  5:05                                 ` Alexander Samad
2006-02-09 10:29                         ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-09 10:53                           ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-09 13:42                             ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-09 15:33                               ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-09 14:57                           ` DervishD
2006-02-09 15:42                             ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-09 16:32                               ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-09 17:33                               ` DervishD
2006-02-10 10:57                                 ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-10 11:45                                   ` DervishD
2006-02-10 12:33                                     ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-10 12:58                                       ` DervishD
2006-02-09 16:00                           ` Jim Crilly
2006-02-09 16:01                             ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-09 16:10                               ` Jim Crilly
2006-02-09 16:13                                 ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-09 16:26                                   ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-09 16:30                                   ` Jim Crilly
2006-02-09 10:27                       ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-09 10:58                         ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-09 14:55                         ` DervishD

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