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From: Phillip Susi <psusi@cfl.rr.com>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>, Kyle Moffett <mrmacman_g4@mac.com>,
	Alon Bar-Lev <alon.barlev@gmail.com>,
	Kernel development list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Flames over -- Re: Which is simpler?
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 14:17:56 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <43F8C464.3000509@cfl.rr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0602191138470.9165-100000@netrider.rowland.org>

Alan Stern wrote:
> 
> I'm confused.  Weren't you arguing, only a few days ago, that it _should_
> be okay to unplug a USB drive while the system is suspended?  After all,

No, I wasn't arguing that it should be okay to unplug a usb drive while 
the system is suspended, I was saying that it is better for the kernel 
to assume you did not when it can't really tell, since you aren't 
supposed to do that anyhow.

> since there's no difference (as far as the kernel can see) between power
> loss on the bus and an actual unplug, you can hardly say that one should
> be allowed and the other not.

   But there _IS_ a difference between power loss and actual unplug, so 
I very well can say one is allowed and the other is not.  The fact that 
the kernel can not tell the difference is simply a limitation that must 
be dealt with.



  reply	other threads:[~2006-02-19 19:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-02-12 16:57 Flames over -- Re: Which is simpler? Alan Stern
2006-02-13  0:51 ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-13  2:19   ` Alan Stern
2006-02-13  3:52     ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-13  5:43       ` Kyle Moffett
2006-02-13 16:40         ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-13 16:31       ` Alan Stern
2006-02-13 17:14         ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-13 20:04           ` Alan Stern
2006-02-13 20:38             ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-13 21:24               ` Alan Stern
2006-02-13 22:27                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-02-14 19:26                   ` Alan Stern
2006-02-14 19:26                     ` Alan Stern
2006-02-14 20:41                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-02-14 20:41                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-02-14 21:08                       ` Lee Revell
2006-02-14 21:08                         ` Lee Revell
2006-02-15 15:56                       ` Alan Stern
2006-02-15 15:56                         ` Alan Stern
2006-02-13 22:51                 ` J. Bruce Fields
2006-02-13 23:47                 ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-14  0:50                   ` Kyle Moffett
2006-02-14  2:09                     ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-14  4:09                       ` Kyle Moffett
2006-02-14  4:28                         ` Alan Stern
2006-02-14  5:11                           ` Kyle Moffett
2006-02-14 15:33                             ` Alan Stern
2006-02-14  6:27                         ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-14 16:23                           ` Kyle Moffett
2006-02-14 18:39                             ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-14 19:55                               ` Kyle Moffett
2006-02-14 21:13                                 ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-14 23:32                                   ` Kyle Moffett
2006-02-15  3:08                                     ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-14 19:14                             ` Olivier Galibert
2006-02-14 19:37                               ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-17 21:04                   ` Pavel Machek
2006-02-18 16:34                     ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-18 17:29                       ` Pavel Machek
2006-02-19  5:52                         ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-19  9:02                           ` Pavel Machek
2006-02-19 16:35                             ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-19 16:41                               ` Alan Stern
2006-02-19 19:17                                 ` Phillip Susi [this message]
2006-02-19 19:43                                   ` Pavel Machek
2006-02-20  0:56                                     ` Olivier Galibert
2006-02-20  1:01                                       ` Pavel Machek
2006-02-20  1:26                                         ` Olivier Galibert
2006-02-20  4:04                                           ` Alan Stern
2006-02-19 20:16                                   ` Bernd Eckenfels
2006-02-18 21:04                     ` Alan Stern
2006-02-18 21:04                       ` Alan Stern
2006-02-19  0:02                       ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-19  0:02                         ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-19  6:02                         ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-19  6:02                           ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-19  6:32                           ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-19  6:32                             ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-19 16:39                             ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-19 16:39                               ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-19 16:54                               ` Alan Stern
2006-02-19 16:54                                 ` Alan Stern
2006-02-19 20:02                                 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-19 20:02                                   ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-19 20:44                                   ` Oliver Neukum
2006-02-19 20:44                                     ` Oliver Neukum
2006-02-19 21:02                                     ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-19 21:02                                       ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-20  6:55                                       ` Oliver Neukum
2006-02-20  7:29                                         ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-20  7:29                                           ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-20  7:57                                           ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-20  7:57                                             ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-14 14:15     ` hackmiester / Hunter Fuller
2006-02-15 23:51     ` Pavel Machek
2006-02-13  2:25   ` Kyle Moffett
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-02-13 19:16 David Brownell
2006-02-13 20:08 ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-14  3:10   ` David Brownell
2006-02-14  6:05     ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-14 17:04       ` David Brownell
2006-02-15 23:43   ` Pavel Machek
2006-02-18 20:51     ` David Brownell
2006-02-19  6:06       ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-20  5:50         ` David Brownell
2006-02-20 16:07           ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-20 16:51             ` Olivier Galibert
2006-02-20 18:20               ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-20 18:44                 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-02-20 21:45                   ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-21 16:19             ` David Brownell
2006-02-21 18:30               ` Phillip Susi

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