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From: Gentoopower <gentoopower@yahoo.de>
To: Mark Lord <liml@rtr.ca>
Cc: "Raz Ben-Jehuda(caro)" <raziebe@gmail.com>,
	Linux RAID Mailing List <linux-raid@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-ide@vger.kernel.org" <linux-ide@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: NCQ general question
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 16:56:15 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4405C41F.5060504@yahoo.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4405A656.1030602@rtr.ca>

Mark Lord wrote:
> Gentoopower wrote:
>> Raz Ben-Jehuda(caro) wrote:
>>> i am thinking of buying a promise card sataII pcix.
>>> they have two types, a card which support NCQ
>>> and another that does not.
>>> What is the bennifit of buying  a card with NCQ tagging ?
>>>   
>> How about: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_command_queueing
>
> Yuck.. what a lousy wiki entry.
>
> NCQ vs. TCQ:  NCQ has a much more efficient low-level protocol,
> making the host-side (controller, operating-system) quite a bit
> simpler than with NCQ.
>
> Both use 32-deep queue depths, and neither of them are worth a
> damn on Linux yet.  Except possibly in the libata ahci driver,
> or vendor-provided drivers (open source, even) for some chipsets.
>
> In theory, NCQ/TCQ can speed up a very busy fileserver that is
> handling mostly tiny I/O requests.  Practically no measurable
> benefit for single-user systems.
That's a lousy comment:-)

Single-User systems can have lots of I/O requests too.
If I compile something in the backround, listen to music, while copying
files from one drive to the other.
I also have lots of I/O while booting.
I have two seagates in my box a 160GB 7200.7 and 160GB 7200.9(SATAII
NCQ), using NFORCE4.
I can defintely feel the speed difference between the two drives.

P.S. Just waiting to see NCQ support for my nforce system in libata:-)
>
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-03-01 15:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-03-01  7:04 NCQ general question Raz Ben-Jehuda(caro)
2006-03-01  8:56 ` Gentoopower
2006-03-01 13:49   ` Mark Lord
2006-03-01 13:55     ` Jens Axboe
2006-03-03 21:55       ` Steve Byan
2006-03-03 22:19         ` Jeff Garzik
2006-03-04 18:56           ` Steve Byan
2006-03-04 19:10             ` Jeff Garzik
2006-03-04 20:23               ` Steve Byan
2006-03-04 23:56                 ` Eric D. Mudama
2006-03-05  7:19                   ` Raz Ben-Jehuda(caro)
2006-03-05  7:29                     ` Jeff Garzik
2006-03-08 16:51                       ` Louis-David Mitterrand
2006-03-08 17:17                         ` Jeff Garzik
2006-03-14 17:17                           ` Louis-David Mitterrand
2006-03-01 15:56     ` Gentoopower [this message]
2006-03-01 16:05       ` Jens Axboe
2006-03-01 16:20         ` Jeff Garzik
2006-03-01 18:53           ` Jens Axboe
2006-03-02  8:14             ` Raz Ben-Jehuda(caro)
2006-03-02  8:18               ` Jens Axboe
2006-03-02 11:20                 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-03-02 13:34                   ` Raz Ben-Jehuda(caro)
2006-03-02 13:37                     ` Jeff Garzik
2006-03-02  8:18           ` Rafal Krzewski
2006-03-02 11:35             ` Jeff Garzik
2006-03-02 14:29               ` Rafal Krzewski
2006-03-01 16:48         ` Gentoopower
2006-03-01 18:34           ` Mark Lord

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