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From: Menno Smits <menno@netboxblue.com>
To: Netfilter Development Mailinglist <netfilter-devel@lists.netfilter.org>
Subject: "Late REDIRECT"
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 19:06:29 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <44153615.50408@netboxblue.com> (raw)

Hi,

Just wanted to ask for your opinions on an idea. Please let me know if 
you think this is too difficult or crazy.

We use currently use the REDIRECT target in nat PREROUTING to send 
specific traffic to proxies running on our gateway (http, pop3, dns and 
smtp).

This works ok but we have the following problems:

1) nat PREROUTING happens before filter FORWARD. If we want to apply
consistent filter rules to outbound traffic regardless of whether it 
goes via a transparent proxy or directly out then we can't because the 
transproxied traffic never goes thru filter FORWARD. Currently we use a 
horrible system of marks set in mangle PREROUTING to work around this. 
We reject packets in FORWARD or skip the REDIRECTs in nat based on the 
marks set. This is ugly and hard to debug (esp because we also use marks 
for traffic shaping).

2) Return traffic from the transparent proxy REDIRECTs has the source IP 
and source port of the transparent proxy listener, not the true remote 
site and port. This means that when we do accounting for return traffic 
(using ULOG in mangle POSTROUTING) the remote host and port are incorrect.

A possible solution to the above problems is to allow REDIRECTs to occur 
in nat POSTROUTING (a "late redirect" for want of a better term). That 
way all outbound traffic can pass through filter FORWARD before being 
REDIRECTed. The reply NAT for the late REDIRECT would work in a similar 
way, being performed before filter FORWARD so that the true source IP 
and port is seen there.

Is something like this feasible? How difficult would it be implement? Am 
I barking up the wrong tree?

Regards,
Menno

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             reply	other threads:[~2006-03-13  9:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-03-13  9:06 Menno Smits [this message]
2006-03-13 11:01 ` "Late REDIRECT" Pablo Neira Ayuso
2006-03-14  2:50   ` Menno Smits
2006-03-16  9:14 ` mud dog

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