* Cutting down spam on this list @ 2006-03-20 22:21 Philip Prindeville 2006-03-22 19:30 ` Philip Prindeville 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Philip Prindeville @ 2006-03-20 22:21 UTC (permalink / raw) To: alsa-devel I've opened a case a couple of weeks ago on sourceforge.net about getting the spam controls cranked up a bit for this mailing list, but have yet to get any form of response from the person that case has been assigned to (so much for hearing back within "5 business days" ... maybe they mean 5 congressional business days ;-) ). -Philip ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Cutting down spam on this list 2006-03-20 22:21 Cutting down spam on this list Philip Prindeville @ 2006-03-22 19:30 ` Philip Prindeville 2006-03-22 19:34 ` Takashi Iwai 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Philip Prindeville @ 2006-03-22 19:30 UTC (permalink / raw) To: alsa-devel Ok, just saw: >Received: from sc8-sf-list2-b.sourceforge.net (sc8-sf-list2-b.sourceforge.net [10.3.1.8]) > by sc8-sf-spam2.sourceforge.net (Postfix) with ESMTP > id 08A48132A0; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 11:25:11 -0800 (PST) >Received: from sc8-sf-mx1-b.sourceforge.net ([10.3.1.91] helo=mail.sourceforge.net) > by sc8-sf-list2.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 4.30) > id 1FM8wl-00059t-N3 > for alsa-devel@lists.sourceforge.net; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 11:24:43 -0800 >Received: from alsa.jcu.cz ([160.217.9.25]) > by mail.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 4.44) > id 1FM8wj-0005jA-1U > for alsa-devel@lists.sourceforge.net; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 11:24:43 -0800 >Received: by alsa.jcu.cz (ALSA's E-mail Delivery System) > id 763211CE; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 20:24:38 +0100 (MET) >Delivered-To: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org >Received: from www.aaaaldo.com (aaaaldo.com [66.103.151.35]) > by alsa.jcu.cz (ALSA's E-mail Delivery System) with SMTP id EDC601CD > for <alsa-devel@alsa-project.org>; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 20:24:37 +0100 (MET) >Content-Type: text/html; >From: "Realestate.com" <moreinfo@triplealdo.com> >MIME-Version: 1.0 >To: Friend <alsa-devel@alsa-project.org> >Message-ID: <44219c3e@www.aaaaldo.com> >X-Complaints-To: abuse@www.aaaaldo.com >Subject: [Alsa-devel] Let RealEstate.com Prospect for You >X-Original-Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 18:49:34 +0000 >Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 18:49:34 +0000 > Someone tell me again why we need the alsa.jcu.cz gateway? Since most people email directly to alsa-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, this backdoor would seem to be nothing but a spam collector. -Philip ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Cutting down spam on this list 2006-03-22 19:30 ` Philip Prindeville @ 2006-03-22 19:34 ` Takashi Iwai 2006-03-22 19:37 ` Philip Prindeville 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Takashi Iwai @ 2006-03-22 19:34 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Philip Prindeville; +Cc: alsa-devel At Wed, 22 Mar 2006 12:30:23 -0700, Philip Prindeville wrote: > > Ok, just saw: > > >Received: from sc8-sf-list2-b.sourceforge.net (sc8-sf-list2-b.sourceforge.net [10.3.1.8]) > > by sc8-sf-spam2.sourceforge.net (Postfix) with ESMTP > > id 08A48132A0; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 11:25:11 -0800 (PST) > >Received: from sc8-sf-mx1-b.sourceforge.net ([10.3.1.91] helo=mail.sourceforge.net) > > by sc8-sf-list2.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 4.30) > > id 1FM8wl-00059t-N3 > > for alsa-devel@lists.sourceforge.net; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 11:24:43 -0800 > >Received: from alsa.jcu.cz ([160.217.9.25]) > > by mail.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 4.44) > > id 1FM8wj-0005jA-1U > > for alsa-devel@lists.sourceforge.net; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 11:24:43 -0800 > >Received: by alsa.jcu.cz (ALSA's E-mail Delivery System) > > id 763211CE; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 20:24:38 +0100 (MET) > >Delivered-To: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org > >Received: from www.aaaaldo.com (aaaaldo.com [66.103.151.35]) > > by alsa.jcu.cz (ALSA's E-mail Delivery System) with SMTP id EDC601CD > > for <alsa-devel@alsa-project.org>; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 20:24:37 +0100 (MET) > >Content-Type: text/html; > >From: "Realestate.com" <moreinfo@triplealdo.com> > >MIME-Version: 1.0 > >To: Friend <alsa-devel@alsa-project.org> > >Message-ID: <44219c3e@www.aaaaldo.com> > >X-Complaints-To: abuse@www.aaaaldo.com > >Subject: [Alsa-devel] Let RealEstate.com Prospect for You > >X-Original-Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 18:49:34 +0000 > >Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 18:49:34 +0000 > > > > > Someone tell me again why we need the alsa.jcu.cz gateway? Since most > people email directly to alsa-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, this backdoor > would seem to be nothing but a spam collector. These are mails from alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, the old ML address, which just redirects to SF. I don't know why it's still needed, too, maybe just for convenience... Takashi ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Cutting down spam on this list 2006-03-22 19:34 ` Takashi Iwai @ 2006-03-22 19:37 ` Philip Prindeville 2006-03-22 19:59 ` Takashi Iwai 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Philip Prindeville @ 2006-03-22 19:37 UTC (permalink / raw) To: alsa-devel Takashi Iwai wrote: >At Wed, 22 Mar 2006 12:30:23 -0700, >Philip Prindeville wrote: > > >>Ok, just saw: >> >> >> >>>Received: from sc8-sf-list2-b.sourceforge.net (sc8-sf-list2-b.sourceforge.net [10.3.1.8]) >>> by sc8-sf-spam2.sourceforge.net (Postfix) with ESMTP >>> id 08A48132A0; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 11:25:11 -0800 (PST) >>>Received: from sc8-sf-mx1-b.sourceforge.net ([10.3.1.91] helo=mail.sourceforge.net) >>> by sc8-sf-list2.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 4.30) >>> id 1FM8wl-00059t-N3 >>> for alsa-devel@lists.sourceforge.net; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 11:24:43 -0800 >>>Received: from alsa.jcu.cz ([160.217.9.25]) >>> by mail.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 4.44) >>> id 1FM8wj-0005jA-1U >>> for alsa-devel@lists.sourceforge.net; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 11:24:43 -0800 >>>Received: by alsa.jcu.cz (ALSA's E-mail Delivery System) >>> id 763211CE; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 20:24:38 +0100 (MET) >>>Delivered-To: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org >>>Received: from www.aaaaldo.com (aaaaldo.com [66.103.151.35]) >>> by alsa.jcu.cz (ALSA's E-mail Delivery System) with SMTP id EDC601CD >>> for <alsa-devel@alsa-project.org>; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 20:24:37 +0100 (MET) >>>Content-Type: text/html; >>>From: "Realestate.com" <moreinfo@triplealdo.com> >>>MIME-Version: 1.0 >>>To: Friend <alsa-devel@alsa-project.org> >>>Message-ID: <44219c3e@www.aaaaldo.com> >>>X-Complaints-To: abuse@www.aaaaldo.com >>>Subject: [Alsa-devel] Let RealEstate.com Prospect for You >>>X-Original-Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 18:49:34 +0000 >>>Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 18:49:34 +0000 >>> >>> >>> >>Someone tell me again why we need the alsa.jcu.cz gateway? Since most >>people email directly to alsa-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, this backdoor >>would seem to be nothing but a spam collector. >> >> > >These are mails from alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, the old ML address, >which just redirects to SF. I don't know why it's still needed, too, >maybe just for convenience... > > >Takashi > > What would break if it were turned off? -Philip ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Cutting down spam on this list 2006-03-22 19:37 ` Philip Prindeville @ 2006-03-22 19:59 ` Takashi Iwai 2006-03-22 20:16 ` Sergei Shtylylov 2006-03-28 12:33 ` Jaroslav Kysela 0 siblings, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Takashi Iwai @ 2006-03-22 19:59 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Philip Prindeville; +Cc: alsa-devel At Wed, 22 Mar 2006 12:37:19 -0700, Philip Prindeville wrote: > > Takashi Iwai wrote: > > >At Wed, 22 Mar 2006 12:30:23 -0700, > >Philip Prindeville wrote: > > > > > >>Ok, just saw: > >> > >> > >> > >>>Received: from sc8-sf-list2-b.sourceforge.net (sc8-sf-list2-b.sourceforge.net [10.3.1.8]) > >>> by sc8-sf-spam2.sourceforge.net (Postfix) with ESMTP > >>> id 08A48132A0; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 11:25:11 -0800 (PST) > >>>Received: from sc8-sf-mx1-b.sourceforge.net ([10.3.1.91] helo=mail.sourceforge.net) > >>> by sc8-sf-list2.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 4.30) > >>> id 1FM8wl-00059t-N3 > >>> for alsa-devel@lists.sourceforge.net; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 11:24:43 -0800 > >>>Received: from alsa.jcu.cz ([160.217.9.25]) > >>> by mail.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 4.44) > >>> id 1FM8wj-0005jA-1U > >>> for alsa-devel@lists.sourceforge.net; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 11:24:43 -0800 > >>>Received: by alsa.jcu.cz (ALSA's E-mail Delivery System) > >>> id 763211CE; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 20:24:38 +0100 (MET) > >>>Delivered-To: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org > >>>Received: from www.aaaaldo.com (aaaaldo.com [66.103.151.35]) > >>> by alsa.jcu.cz (ALSA's E-mail Delivery System) with SMTP id EDC601CD > >>> for <alsa-devel@alsa-project.org>; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 20:24:37 +0100 (MET) > >>>Content-Type: text/html; > >>>From: "Realestate.com" <moreinfo@triplealdo.com> > >>>MIME-Version: 1.0 > >>>To: Friend <alsa-devel@alsa-project.org> > >>>Message-ID: <44219c3e@www.aaaaldo.com> > >>>X-Complaints-To: abuse@www.aaaaldo.com > >>>Subject: [Alsa-devel] Let RealEstate.com Prospect for You > >>>X-Original-Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 18:49:34 +0000 > >>>Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 18:49:34 +0000 > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>Someone tell me again why we need the alsa.jcu.cz gateway? Since most > >>people email directly to alsa-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, this backdoor > >>would seem to be nothing but a spam collector. > >> > >> > > > >These are mails from alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, the old ML address, > >which just redirects to SF. I don't know why it's still needed, too, > >maybe just for convenience... > > > > > >Takashi > > > > > > What would break if it were turned off? Many people won't reach to ML :) I found that the addresses are not updated in linux/MAINTAINERS. Need to fix it. Sigh. Takashi ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Cutting down spam on this list 2006-03-22 19:59 ` Takashi Iwai @ 2006-03-22 20:16 ` Sergei Shtylylov 2006-03-28 12:33 ` Jaroslav Kysela 1 sibling, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Sergei Shtylylov @ 2006-03-22 20:16 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Takashi Iwai; +Cc: alsa-devel Hello. Takashi Iwai wrote: >>>At Wed, 22 Mar 2006 12:30:23 -0700, >>>Philip Prindeville wrote: >>>>Someone tell me again why we need the alsa.jcu.cz gateway? Since most >>>>people email directly to alsa-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, this backdoor >>>>would seem to be nothing but a spam collector. >>>These are mails from alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, the old ML address, >>>which just redirects to SF. I don't know why it's still needed, too, >>>maybe just for convenience... >>>Takashi >>What would break if it were turned off? > Many people won't reach to ML :) > I found that the addresses are not updated in linux/MAINTAINERS. Need > to fix it. Sigh. Looks like it doesn't work anyway -- at least my patches initially posted to that address, seem to never reach the list... > Takashi WBR, Sergei ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Cutting down spam on this list 2006-03-22 19:59 ` Takashi Iwai 2006-03-22 20:16 ` Sergei Shtylylov @ 2006-03-28 12:33 ` Jaroslav Kysela 2006-03-28 13:13 ` Takashi Iwai ` (2 more replies) 1 sibling, 3 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Jaroslav Kysela @ 2006-03-28 12:33 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Takashi Iwai; +Cc: Philip Prindeville, ALSA development On Wed, 22 Mar 2006, Takashi Iwai wrote: > > >These are mails from alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, the old ML address, > > >which just redirects to SF. I don't know why it's still needed, too, > > >maybe just for convenience... > > > > What would break if it were turned off? > > Many people won't reach to ML :) > I found that the addresses are not updated in linux/MAINTAINERS. Need > to fix it. Sigh. I would prefer to use the alsa-devel@alsa-project.org rather than SF address to avoid problems when we move mailing lists to some other server. The SF address should not be our public address. What's the problem? If the contents based spam detection is problematic, nothing help us. Jaroslav ----- Jaroslav Kysela <perex@suse.cz> Linux Kernel Sound Maintainer ALSA Project, SUSE Labs ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Cutting down spam on this list 2006-03-28 12:33 ` Jaroslav Kysela @ 2006-03-28 13:13 ` Takashi Iwai 2006-03-28 17:28 ` Philip Prindeville 2006-04-04 16:42 ` Philip Prindeville 2 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Takashi Iwai @ 2006-03-28 13:13 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Jaroslav Kysela; +Cc: Philip Prindeville, ALSA development At Tue, 28 Mar 2006 14:33:26 +0200 (CEST), Jaroslav Kysela wrote: > > On Wed, 22 Mar 2006, Takashi Iwai wrote: > > > > >These are mails from alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, the old ML address, > > > >which just redirects to SF. I don't know why it's still needed, too, > > > >maybe just for convenience... > > > > > > What would break if it were turned off? > > > > Many people won't reach to ML :) > > I found that the addresses are not updated in linux/MAINTAINERS. Need > > to fix it. Sigh. > > I would prefer to use the alsa-devel@alsa-project.org rather than SF > address to avoid problems when we move mailing lists to some other > server. The SF address should not be our public address. > > What's the problem? If the contents based spam detection is problematic, > nothing help us. The fact is that most of spams come actually through alsa-*@alsa-project.org, but not alsa-*@lists.sf.net. Is it just a conincidence? It's the very question... Takashi ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Cutting down spam on this list 2006-03-28 12:33 ` Jaroslav Kysela 2006-03-28 13:13 ` Takashi Iwai @ 2006-03-28 17:28 ` Philip Prindeville 2006-04-04 16:42 ` Philip Prindeville 2 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Philip Prindeville @ 2006-03-28 17:28 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Jaroslav Kysela; +Cc: Takashi Iwai, ALSA development Jaroslav Kysela wrote: >On Wed, 22 Mar 2006, Takashi Iwai wrote: > > > >>>>These are mails from alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, the old ML address, >>>>which just redirects to SF. I don't know why it's still needed, too, >>>>maybe just for convenience... >>>> >>>> >>>What would break if it were turned off? >>> >>> >>Many people won't reach to ML :) >>I found that the addresses are not updated in linux/MAINTAINERS. Need >>to fix it. Sigh. >> >> > >I would prefer to use the alsa-devel@alsa-project.org rather than SF >address to avoid problems when we move mailing lists to some other >server. The SF address should not be our public address. > >What's the problem? If the contents based spam detection is problematic, >nothing help us. > > > Jaroslav > > The problem is that the spam needs to be detected as close to the source as possible, which means cutting down the number of legitimate relays that it has to pass through. Now, if *everyone* posts via the alsa-project.org address, and that simply forwards to lists.sourceforge.net for explosion (but that direct submission is blocked at sourceforge) then we can do the filtering on alsa-project.org... -Philip ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Cutting down spam on this list 2006-03-28 12:33 ` Jaroslav Kysela 2006-03-28 13:13 ` Takashi Iwai 2006-03-28 17:28 ` Philip Prindeville @ 2006-04-04 16:42 ` Philip Prindeville 2 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Philip Prindeville @ 2006-04-04 16:42 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Jaroslav Kysela; +Cc: Takashi Iwai, ALSA development Jaroslav Kysela wrote: >On Wed, 22 Mar 2006, Takashi Iwai wrote: > > > >>>>These are mails from alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, the old ML address, >>>>which just redirects to SF. I don't know why it's still needed, too, >>>>maybe just for convenience... >>>> >>>> >>>What would break if it were turned off? >>> >>> >>Many people won't reach to ML :) >>I found that the addresses are not updated in linux/MAINTAINERS. Need >>to fix it. Sigh. >> >> > >I would prefer to use the alsa-devel@alsa-project.org rather than SF >address to avoid problems when we move mailing lists to some other >server. The SF address should not be our public address. > >What's the problem? If the contents based spam detection is problematic, >nothing help us. > > > Jaroslav > > > For what it's worth, I opened a case of sourceforge over a month ago, and was told the case would be addressed in 5 business days. I've yet to hear anything. Sigh. Since most of the spam is being injected at alsa-project.org, though, it would make the most sense to install SA + MdF there. I can do this. Jaroslav: what do you think? Contact me offline. Thanks, -Philip ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
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