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From: Zoltan Menyhart <Zoltan.Menyhart@free.fr>
To: "Chen, Kenneth W" <kenneth.w.chen@intel.com>
Cc: 'Nick Piggin' <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
	Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>,
	akpm@osdl.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Fix unlock_buffer() to work the same way as bit_unlock()
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 21:42:20 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4429ADBC.50507@free.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200603281853.k2SIrGg28290@unix-os.sc.intel.com>

Chen, Kenneth W wrote:
> Nick Piggin wrote on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 12:11 AM
> 
>>Also, I think there is still the issue of ia64 not having the
>>correct memory consistency semantics. To start with, all the bitops
>>and atomic ops which both modify their operand and return a value
>>should be full memory barriers before and after the operation,
>>according to Documentation/atomic_ops.txt.
>
> I suppose the usage of atomic ops is abused, it is used in both lock
> and unlock path.  And it naturally suck because it now requires full
> memory barrier.  A better way is to define 3 variants: one for lock
> path, one for unlock path, and one with full memory fence.

I agree. As I wrote a few days ago:

Why not to use separate bit operations for different purposes?

- e.g. "test_and_set_bit_N_acquire()" for lock acquisition
- "test_and_set_bit()", "clear_bit()" as they are today
- "release_N_clear_bit()"...

Thanks,

Zoltan


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From: Zoltan Menyhart <Zoltan.Menyhart@free.fr>
To: "Chen, Kenneth W" <kenneth.w.chen@intel.com>
Cc: "'Nick Piggin'" <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
	Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>,
	akpm@osdl.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Fix unlock_buffer() to work the same way as bit_unlock()
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 23:42:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4429ADBC.50507@free.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200603281853.k2SIrGg28290@unix-os.sc.intel.com>

Chen, Kenneth W wrote:
> Nick Piggin wrote on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 12:11 AM
> 
>>Also, I think there is still the issue of ia64 not having the
>>correct memory consistency semantics. To start with, all the bitops
>>and atomic ops which both modify their operand and return a value
>>should be full memory barriers before and after the operation,
>>according to Documentation/atomic_ops.txt.
>
> I suppose the usage of atomic ops is abused, it is used in both lock
> and unlock path.  And it naturally suck because it now requires full
> memory barrier.  A better way is to define 3 variants: one for lock
> path, one for unlock path, and one with full memory fence.

I agree. As I wrote a few days ago:

Why not to use separate bit operations for different purposes?

- e.g. "test_and_set_bit_N_acquire()" for lock acquisition
- "test_and_set_bit()", "clear_bit()" as they are today
- "release_N_clear_bit()"...

Thanks,

Zoltan


  reply	other threads:[~2006-03-28 21:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-03-28  3:59 Fix unlock_buffer() to work the same way as bit_unlock() Christoph Lameter
2006-03-28  3:59 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-03-28  8:10 ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-28  8:10   ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-28 18:53 ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-03-28 18:53   ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-03-28 21:42   ` Zoltan Menyhart [this message]
2006-03-28 21:42     ` Zoltan Menyhart
2006-03-28 23:48     ` Christoph Lameter
2006-03-28 23:48       ` Christoph Lameter
2006-03-29  0:07       ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-29  0:07         ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-29  2:23         ` Christoph Lameter
2006-03-29  2:23           ` Christoph Lameter
2006-03-29  2:35           ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-29  2:35             ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-29 10:57       ` Zoltan Menyhart
2006-03-29 10:57         ` Zoltan Menyhart
2006-03-29  0:12 ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-03-29  0:12   ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-03-29  0:27 ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-03-29  0:27   ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-03-29  0:47   ` Christoph Lameter
2006-03-29  0:47     ` Christoph Lameter
2006-03-29  1:39 ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-03-29  1:39   ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-03-29 12:16   ` Zoltan Menyhart
2006-03-29 12:16     ` Zoltan Menyhart
2006-03-30  1:56     ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-30  1:56       ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-29  6:46 ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-03-29  6:46   ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-03-29  7:11   ` Christoph Lameter
2006-03-29  7:11     ` Christoph Lameter
2006-03-30  1:34   ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-30  1:34     ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-29  6:50 ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-03-29  6:50   ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-03-30  1:36   ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-30  1:36     ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-29 18:33 ` Boehm, Hans
2006-03-29 18:33   ` Boehm, Hans
2006-03-29 19:11   ` Grant Grundler
2006-03-29 19:11     ` Grant Grundler
2006-03-29 19:31 ` Boehm, Hans
2006-03-29 19:31   ` Boehm, Hans
2006-03-29 22:17   ` Christoph Lameter
2006-03-29 22:17     ` Christoph Lameter
2006-03-29 22:56 ` Boehm, Hans
2006-03-29 22:56   ` Boehm, Hans
2006-03-29 23:33   ` Christoph Lameter
2006-03-29 23:33     ` Christoph Lameter
2006-03-30  8:43     ` Zoltan Menyhart
2006-03-30  8:43       ` Zoltan Menyhart
2006-03-30  8:55       ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-30  8:55         ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-30 19:11         ` Christoph Lameter
2006-03-30 19:11           ` Christoph Lameter
2006-03-30 17:17       ` Christoph Lameter
2006-03-30 17:17         ` Christoph Lameter
2006-03-29 23:49 ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-03-29 23:49   ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-03-29 23:50   ` Christoph Lameter
2006-03-29 23:50     ` Christoph Lameter
2006-03-29 23:50   ` Grant Grundler
2006-03-29 23:50     ` Grant Grundler
     [not found] ` <442AA13B.3050104@bull.net>
2006-03-30  1:57   ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-30  1:57     ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-30 17:57 ` Boehm, Hans
2006-03-30 17:57   ` Boehm, Hans
2006-03-30 18:17   ` Christoph Lameter
2006-03-30 18:17     ` Christoph Lameter
2006-03-30 22:17 ` Boehm, Hans
2006-03-30 22:26 ` Boehm, Hans
2006-03-30 22:26   ` Boehm, Hans

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