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From: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>
To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Absolute USB-HID device musings (was Re: VNC Terminal Server)
Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 23:36:19 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <44388F43.20207@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <443825D8.3080602@win4lin.com>

I was looking through the Xorg evdev driver and it doesn't appear to 
support absolute coordinate reporting.  evdev is how the USB mouse would 
show up to userspace.  A little googling confirmed it for me:

http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg/2005-September/010140.html

USB wacom still seems the most promising to me but I fear getting it to 
work under Windows will be a pain.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori


Leonardo E. Reiter wrote:
> This is by no means a complete patch (do not apply it as it will break 
> usb-hid.c), but it adjusts the report descriptor in usb-hid.c to 
> provide position in 16-bits, and in absolute coordinates:
>
> Index: usb-hid.c
> ===================================================================
> RCS file: /cvsroot/qemu/qemu/hw/usb-hid.c,v
> retrieving revision 1.1
> diff -a -u -r1.1 usb-hid.c
> --- usb-hid.c   5 Nov 2005 16:57:08 -0000       1.1
> +++ usb-hid.c   8 Apr 2006 20:56:02 -0000
> @@ -117,7 +117,7 @@
>      0x15, 0x00, 0x25, 0x01, 0x95, 0x03, 0x75, 0x01,
>      0x81, 0x02, 0x95, 0x01, 0x75, 0x05, 0x81, 0x01,
>      0x05, 0x01, 0x09, 0x30, 0x09, 0x31, 0x15, 0x81,
> -    0x25, 0x7F, 0x75, 0x08, 0x95, 0x02, 0x81, 0x06,
> +    0x25, 0x7F, 0x75, 0x16, 0x95, 0x02, 0x81, 0x02,
>      0xC0, 0xC0,
>  };
>
> According to: 
> http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:wVYUTwc33f8J:www.usb.org/developers/devclass_docs/HID1_11.pdf+usb+hid+specification+absolute+relative&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1 
>
>
> I'm still trying to figure out how the logical min/max apply if we are 
> to report absolute (unsigned) positions in 16-bits.  Obviously 8-bits 
> is not enough for absolute coordinates.  You could theoretically use 
> only 12-bits per coordinate but that would make life difficult I 
> think, and probably unnecessarily frugal in a software emulation.
>
> It's not clear to me [yet] how the scroll wheel comes into play, and 
> whether or not it (the dz coordinate) can be kept relative for ease of 
> implementation.  Also the code would need to be changed to report 
> coordinates in 16-bits rather than 8, and of course made to report 
> absolute coordinates (like from sdl.c, etc.)  Still it looks fairly 
> easy to implement - the USB spec is pretty simple.
>
> So to reiterate, my patch does virtually nothing - in fact it will 
> break usb-hid.c so please don't use it.  I was just illustrating how 
> to get it to report the device as providing 16-bit absolute 
> coordinates instead of 8-bit relative ones.  If anyone wants to chime 
> in with more info, I'd be glad to make this a discussion.  *If* using 
> the USB HID device only, not any real USB devices, can be done without 
> slowing down QEMU, then I think this is a great way to get a tablet 
> emulated without having to deal with drivers on either side.  Plus, in 
> the long run, it probably means other neat stuff like being able to 
> get away from ISA bus emulation, and also it's portable to other 
> targets (for example, OS-X on PPC would talk to the USB HID device the 
> same way theoretically), so it's likely the most portable and cleanest 
> option.
>
> Regards,
>
> Leo Reiter
>
> Brad Campbell wrote:
>> Apparently USB HID supports absolute input devices natively. Given we 
>> have a HID mouse driver of sorts in qemu I wonder if that is another 
>> avenue perhaps ?
>>
>>
>

  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-04-09  4:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-04-08 16:20 [Qemu-devel] VNC terminal server? Samuel Hunt
2006-04-08 18:12 ` Brad Campbell
2006-04-21 15:31   ` Troy Benjegerdes
2006-04-21 15:58     ` WaxDragon
2006-04-08 18:24 ` Johannes Schindelin
2006-04-08 18:37   ` Leonardo E. Reiter
2006-04-08 19:04     ` Johannes Schindelin
2006-04-08 19:15       ` Leonardo E. Reiter
2006-04-09  2:54       ` Anthony Liguori
2006-04-08 20:19     ` Brad Campbell
2006-04-08 20:29       ` Leonardo E. Reiter
2006-04-08 21:06       ` [Qemu-devel] Absolute USB-HID device musings (was Re: VNC Terminal Server) Leonardo E. Reiter
2006-04-08 21:18         ` Leonardo E. Reiter
2006-04-08 21:22         ` Brad Campbell
2006-04-08 21:36           ` Leonardo E. Reiter
2006-04-09  4:36         ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2006-04-09 15:14           ` Jim C. Brown
2006-04-09 16:03           ` Leonardo E. Reiter
2006-04-09 16:49             ` Brad Campbell
2006-04-09 18:07             ` andrzej zaborowski
2006-04-09 18:35         ` Brad Campbell
2006-04-09 18:41           ` Lonnie Mendez
2006-04-09 19:22             ` Brad Campbell
2006-04-09 20:27               ` [Qemu-devel] Gentlemen we have absolute movement! was:Absolute " Brad Campbell
2006-04-09 20:31                 ` Anthony Liguori
2006-04-09 20:57                 ` Anthony Liguori
2006-04-09 21:02                   ` Brad Campbell
2006-04-09 21:10                   ` Brad Campbell
2006-04-09 21:20                     ` Johannes Schindelin
2006-04-09 21:35                       ` Brad Campbell
2006-04-09 21:39                     ` Anthony Liguori
2006-04-09 22:01                       ` Brad Campbell
2006-04-09 22:08                         ` Anthony Liguori
2006-04-09 22:12                           ` Brad Campbell
2006-04-09 22:18                           ` Brad Campbell
2006-04-09 23:14                           ` Brad Campbell
2006-04-10  3:40                             ` [Qemu-devel] USB Tablet Emulation (was: Gentlemen we have absolute movement! was:Absolute USB-HID device musings (was Re: VNC Terminal Server)) Anthony Liguori
2006-04-10  8:23                               ` [Qemu-devel] USB Tablet Emulation Brad Campbell
2006-04-10  8:32                                 ` Johannes Schindelin
2006-04-10 10:27                                   ` Brad Campbell
2006-04-10 11:27                                     ` Johannes Schindelin
2006-04-19 17:18                                 ` [Qemu-devel] USB Tablet Emulation + VNC patch Troy Benjegerdes
2006-04-21 21:13                                   ` Brad Campbell
2006-04-26  0:55                                     ` Troy Benjegerdes
2006-04-26  7:37                                       ` Brad Campbell
2006-04-10 14:58                               ` [Qemu-devel] USB Tablet Emulation Leonardo E. Reiter
2006-04-10 15:27                                 ` Anthony Liguori
2006-04-10 15:39                                   ` Leonardo E. Reiter
2006-04-10 16:08                                     ` Brad Campbell
2006-04-10 19:28                                       ` Brad Campbell
2006-04-10 19:44                                         ` Brad Campbell
2006-04-10 21:27                                           ` Brad Campbell
2006-04-10 21:39                                             ` Brad Campbell
2006-04-08 18:38   ` [Qemu-devel] VNC terminal server? Mark Williamson
2006-04-08 18:53     ` Johannes Schindelin
2006-04-08 19:01   ` Jim C. Brown
2006-04-08 19:12     ` Johannes Schindelin
2006-04-08 19:30       ` Jim C. Brown
2006-04-08 19:40         ` Johannes Schindelin
2006-04-09  2:55       ` Anthony Liguori
2006-04-09  2:53     ` Anthony Liguori
2006-04-08 19:21   ` andrzej zaborowski
2006-04-08 19:33     ` Leonardo E. Reiter
2006-04-09  2:59       ` Anthony Liguori
2006-04-09 16:06         ` Leonardo E. Reiter
2006-04-09 16:40           ` Anthony Liguori
2006-04-09  2:57     ` Anthony Liguori
2006-04-09  2:52   ` Anthony Liguori

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