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From: Philippe Gerum <rpm@xenomai.org>
To: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@domain.hid>
Cc: xenomai-core <xenomai@xenomai.org>
Subject: Re: [Xenomai-core] [BUG?] stalled xeno domain
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 19:47:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <443A9A2D.8000405@domain.hid> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <443A9410.50402@domain.hid>

Jan Kiszka wrote:
> Philippe Gerum wrote:
> 
>>Jan Kiszka wrote:
>>
>>>>>Philippe, do you see any remaining issues, e.g. that the leak survived
>>>>>the task termination? Does this have any meaning for correct driver and
>>>>>skin code?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>The only way I could see this leakage survive a switch transition would
>>>>require it to happen over the root context, not over a primary context.
>>>>Was it the case?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>The task had to leave from primary mode. If I forced it to secondary
>>>before terminating, the problem did not show up.
>>>
>>
>>But does the code causing the leakage could have been run by different
>>contexts in sequence, including the root one?
>>
> 
> 
> I don't think so. Bugs in our software aside, there should be no switch
> to secondary mode until termination. Moreover, we installed a SIGXCPU
> handler, and that one didn't trigger as well.
> 
> 
> I just constructed a simple test by placing rthal_local_irq_disable() in
> rt_timer_spin and setting up this user space app:
> 
> #include <stdio.h>
> #include <signal.h>
> #include <native/task.h>
> #include <native/timer.h>
> 
> RT_TASK task;
> 
> void func(void *arg)
> {
>     rt_timer_spin(0);
> }
> 
> 
> void terminate(int sig)
> {
>     printf("joining...\n");
>     rt_task_join(&task);
>     rt_task_delete(&task);
>     printf("done\n");
> }
> 
> 
> int main()
> {
>     signal(SIGINT, terminate);
>     rt_task_spawn(&task, "lockup", 0, 10, T_FPU | T_JOINABLE | T_WARNSW,
>                   func, NULL);
>     pause();
>     return 0;
> }
> 
> 
> Should this lock up (as it currently does) or rather continue to run
> normally after the RT-task terminated? BTW, I'm still not sure if we are
> hunting shadows (is IRQs off a legal state for user space in some skin?)
> or a real problem - i.e. is it worth the time.
> 

IRQS off in user-space - aside of the particular semantics introduced by 
the interrupt shielding - is not a correct state, but it is for kernel 
based RT threads, so I would expect the real-time core to be robust wrt 
this kind of situation. I'm going to put this issue on my work queue 
anyway, I don't like unexplained software thingies getting too close to 
the Twilight Zone...

-- 

Philippe.


  reply	other threads:[~2006-04-10 17:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-04-08 15:12 [Xenomai-core] [BUG?] stalled xeno domain Jan Kiszka
2006-04-08 16:38 ` Jan Kiszka
2006-04-09 10:52   ` Philippe Gerum
2006-04-10 11:37   ` Jan Kiszka
2006-04-10 12:39     ` Philippe Gerum
2006-04-10 13:00       ` Jan Kiszka
2006-04-10 13:28         ` Philippe Gerum
2006-04-10 17:21           ` Jan Kiszka
2006-04-10 17:47             ` Philippe Gerum [this message]
2006-04-16 17:09             ` Philippe Gerum
2006-04-17 15:58               ` Jan Kiszka
2006-04-17 16:21                 ` Philippe Gerum

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