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From: Michael Paesold <mpaesold@gmx.at>
To: Stefan Berger <stefanb@us.ibm.com>
Cc: xen-devel@lists.xensource.com
Subject: Re: [RFD] External device migration for block devices
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 14:47:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4448D447.9080706@gmx.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <OF19474EFA.FB9F34E7-ON85257157.004025C1-85257157.0042771F@us.ibm.com>

Stefan Berger wrote:
> xen-devel-bounces@lists.xensource.com wrote on 04/21/2006 07:13:15 AM:
...
>  > 1) Currently, the device migration script does not get device details
>  > for the device it should migrate, obviously because it's not needed for
>  > vtpm. On the other hand, there can be several block devices for each
>  > domain, and each might have to be handled differently. So the script
>  > needs to get the details for the device it should migrate.
>  >
>  > Should I add a arguments to the device migration script, that will not
>  > be set for vtpm?
> 
> I think this is the best way of doing this. Currently the external 
> device migration script only parses the parameters
> 
> -step <1,2,3>
> -host <destination host>
> -typ  <type of device {'vtpm',...}>
> -domnam <name of domain to migrate>
> 
> which I thought were pretty generic for any kind of migration but not a 
> complete list. If you don't want to extend the list of what is parsed in 
> that script, the best would be to append '$*' to the call into the more 
> specific migration scripts that would then if needed implement command 
> line parameter parsing themselves again. This call currently looks like 
> this:
> 
> func="$typ"_migration_step
> eval $func $host $domname $step [$*  <- add]

Yeah, that's a good way of doing it. I don't think the parent script 
should be bloated with all possible options for all device types.

> So for vtpm it's first sourcing vtpm-migration.sh and afterwards calls 
> the function vtpm_migration_step in that script.
> 
>  > 2) I think there should be some way to configure the migration
>  > capabilities of block devices using the domain config files. Some block
>  > device might be migrated automatically using regular hotplug add/remove
>  > (e.g. nbd/enbd). Others might not be migratable at all (e.g.,
>  > phy:/dev/sdb). For my current use case (DRBD), I use phy:/dev/drbd.
>  > These devices are migratable, but Xend does not know this.
>  >
>  > I don't think it is good if all this knowledge must be put into the
>  > migration scripts itself. So I suggest to add a device config option to
>  > explicitly tell Xend what to do on migrate.
>  >
>  > I suggest adding optional parameters to the end of the block device
>  > definition, which is currently "phy:UNAME,DEV,MODE"; I would extend that
>  > to "phy:UNAME,DEV,MODE[,OPTIONS]".
>  >
>  > Examples:
>  > phy:sdb,xvda,w,migrate=reject  # reject migration
>  > nbd:sample,xvda1,r,migrate=ok  # migration is ok, done through hotplug
>  > phy:drbd1,xvda,w,migrate=drbd  # migration script called with -type drbd
>  > phy:sdb,xvda,r                 # ok is default, for backwards compatib.
>  >
>  > The "reject" argument can be "reject", "ok", or any other string. In the
>  > latter case, it's assumed to be the type given to the migration script.
>  > (Which can be used to redirect this to a different shell script.)
> 
> If there's a difference between migrating these types of block devices 
> then what you show is probably the best way of doing this. Otherwise if 
> migrateability and which script to call can be recognized by the name of 
> the device (sda1 vs drbd1 vs hda), then we could take that kind of 
> intelligence and put it into XenD's blkif.py and take the configuration 
> task away from the user.

I think there are so many different types of block devices that it's 
infeasible for blkif.py to know about all of them. For example, if you 
use Cluster LVM and a SAN, you can have activated the LVs on all dom0s, 
so no migration is neccessary at all -- in such a case phy:/dev/vg/lv1 
is available on all dom0s. In a different setup, phy:/dev/vg/lv1 might 
have some other backend that does need a migration procedure.

It might be possible to use the block device type (phy:,file:,nbd:,...) 
as argument to be passed to the migration script, but that means one 
also has to create a corresponding block-* script for hotplug (even if 
that doesn't do anything useful).

So "nbd:sdb,xvda,w" should use nbd-migrate.sh, and "drbd:drbd1,xvda,w" 
should use drbd-migrate.sh.

Is that a preferable solution?

Best Regards,
Michael Paesold

P.S. perhaps it's even better to pass "-type block -subtype drbd", so 
that a name of "block-drbd-migrate.sh" would be constructed, which would 
live next to "block-drbd" for hotplug.

      reply	other threads:[~2006-04-21 12:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 3+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-04-21 11:13 [RFD] External device migration for block devices Michael Paesold
2006-04-21 12:06 ` Stefan Berger
2006-04-21 12:47   ` Michael Paesold [this message]

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