What about the VLSI/Philips chips?

What about the VLSI/Philips chips?

[Alvaro Kuolas]

Hi, my name is Alvaro Kuolas.

And I have a PHILIPS Sound Card (it's identical to the XWave Thunder
128, on the FCC page there is a photograph and a block diagram of the
sound card, yes the FCC ID of this Philips is the same as the XWave).
The chipset is the infamous Thunderbird 128 QSound from VLSI.

The card, as far as i know, is "undocumented by Philips"(TM). I want to
ask anyone who can help me with information on this card/chipset, if
there "is" information of it (I don't know how to reverse engineering
it, help on this topic would be useful). I know that is an AC97 codec, i
don't know how difficult is to implement this card.

Also, how many of this cards are around?
(In my country there are a lot of Philips sound cards unsold on their
boxes).
Like a pool: Did you ever saw/play with one of the PHILIPS sound cards?

Thanks in advance.



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Re: What about the VLSI/Philips chips?

[Alvaro Kuolas]

Alvaro Kuolas wrote:
> Hi, my name is Alvaro Kuolas.
>
> And I have a PHILIPS Sound Card (it's identical to the XWave Thunder
> 128, on the FCC page there is a photograph and a block diagram of the
> sound card, yes the FCC ID of this Philips is the same as the XWave).
> The chipset is the infamous Thunderbird 128 QSound from VLSI.
>
> The card, as far as i know, is "undocumented by Philips"(TM). I want to
> ask anyone who can help me with information on this card/chipset, if
> there "is" information of it (I don't know how to reverse engineering
> it, help on this topic would be useful). I know that is an AC97 codec, i
> don't know how difficult is to implement this card.
>
> Also, how many of this cards are around?
> (In my country there are a lot of Philips sound cards unsold on their
> boxes).
> Like a pool: Did you ever saw/play with one of the PHILIPS sound cards?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
The FCC ID is the LWHA481P2

On this link http://www.fcc.gov/oet/fccid/help.html#examples
plus the FCC ID on the first dialog box: It's all the info i got
untill now.



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Re: Re: What about the VLSI/Philips chips?

[Takashi Iwai]

At Tue, 02 May 2006 17:04:48 -0300,
Alvaro Kuolas wrote:
> 
> Alvaro Kuolas wrote:
> > Hi, my name is Alvaro Kuolas.
> >
> > And I have a PHILIPS Sound Card (it's identical to the XWave Thunder
> > 128, on the FCC page there is a photograph and a block diagram of the
> > sound card, yes the FCC ID of this Philips is the same as the XWave).
> > The chipset is the infamous Thunderbird 128 QSound from VLSI.
> >
> > The card, as far as i know, is "undocumented by Philips"(TM). I want to
> > ask anyone who can help me with information on this card/chipset, if
> > there "is" information of it (I don't know how to reverse engineering
> > it, help on this topic would be useful). I know that is an AC97 codec, i
> > don't know how difficult is to implement this card.
> >
> > Also, how many of this cards are around?
> > (In my country there are a lot of Philips sound cards unsold on their
> > boxes).
> > Like a pool: Did you ever saw/play with one of the PHILIPS sound cards?
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> >
> The FCC ID is the LWHA481P2
> 
> On this link http://www.fcc.gov/oet/fccid/help.html#examples
> plus the FCC ID on the first dialog box: It's all the info i got
> untill now.

Honestly, I have 0% knowledge about this chipset.
It's one of the "forgotten" cards.


Takashi


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Re: Re: What about the VLSI/Philips chips?

[Alvaro Kuolas]

These are all the cards:
Can be updated the Sound Card Matrix with these?
(Note: The VT21702 is different to the SAA7785.)

   -Model-        -Name Model-           
-Chipset-                         -Remarks/Capabilities-
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Philips PSC602 - Harmonic Edge - Philips SAA7785 Thunderbird Avenger DSP
- 2-Channel PCI Sound Card
Philips PSC604 - Dynamic Edge  - Philips SAA7785 Thunderbird Avenger DSP
- 4.1/4-Channel PCI Sound Card
Philips PSC605 - Sonic Edge    - Philips SAA7785 Thunderbird Avenger DSP
- 5.1/6-Channel PCI Sound Card
--------------
Philips PSC702 - Rhythmic Edge - VLSI/QSound VT21702 Thunderbird 128 DSP
- 2-Channel PCI Sound Card
Philips PSC703 - Rhythmic Edge - Philips SAA7785 Thunderbird Avenger DSP
- 4-Channel PCI Sound Card (Europe?)
Philips PSC704 - Seismic Edge  - VLSI/QSound VT21702 Thunderbird 128 DSP
- 4-Channel PCI Sound Card
Philips PSC705 - Seismic Edge  - Philips SAA7785 Thunderbird Avenger DSP
- 6-Channel PCI Sound Card (Europe?)
Philips PSC706 - Acoustic Edge - Philips SAA7785 Thunderbird Avenger DSP
- 5.1/6-Channel PCI Sound Card
Philips PSC724 - Ultimate Edge - VIA Vinyl ENVY24GT DSP - not Philips :)
- 5.1 24bits 96khz PCI Sound Card
--------------
Philips PSC805 - Aurilium      -                                        
- USB External Sound Processor

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I have one of the two chipsets to play with, and it's the undocumented one.

I said before.
>

>The card, as far as i know, is "undocumented by Philips"(TM).

>
But on the philips page there are a lot of docs, drivers and more.
But for VLSI/QSound  VT21702 there's nothing.
Philips don't be mad with me :).



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