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From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: Blaisorblade <blaisorblade@yahoo.it>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Linux Memory Management <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [patch 11/14] remap_file_pages protection support: pte_present should not trigger on PTE_FILE PROTNONE ptes
Date: Sat, 06 May 2006 20:03:38 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <445C747A.7080205@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200605030329.51034.blaisorblade@yahoo.it>

Blaisorblade wrote:
> On Tuesday 02 May 2006 05:53, Nick Piggin wrote:
> 
>>blaisorblade@yahoo.it wrote:
>>
>>>From: Paolo 'Blaisorblade' Giarrusso <blaisorblade@yahoo.it>
>>>
>>>pte_present(pte) implies that pte_pfn(pte) is valid. Normally even with a
>>>_PAGE_PROTNONE pte this holds, but not when such a PTE is installed by
>>>the new install_file_pte; previously it didn't store protections, only
>>>file offsets, with the patches it also stores protections, and can set
>>>_PAGE_PROTNONE|_PAGE_FILE.
> 
> 
> What could be done is to set a PTE with "no protection", use another bit 
> rather than _PAGE_PROTNONE. This wastes one more bit but doable.

I see.

> 
> 
>>Why is this combination useful? Can't you just drop the _PAGE_FILE from
>>_PAGE_PROTNONE ptes?
> 
> 
> I must think on this, but the semantics are not entirely the same between the 
> two cases.

And yes, this won't work. I was misunderstanding what was happening.

I guess your problem is that you're overloading the pte protection bits
for present ptes as protection bits for not present (file) ptes. I'd rather
you just used a different encoding for file pte protections then.

"Wasting" a bit seems much more preferable for this very uncommon case (for
most people) rather than bloating pte_present check, which is called in
practically every performance critical inner loop).

That said, if the patch is i386/uml specific then I don't have much say in
it. If Ingo/Linus and Jeff/Yourself, respectively, accept the patch, then
fine.

But I think you should drop the comment from the core code. It seems wrong.

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From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: Blaisorblade <blaisorblade@yahoo.it>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Linux Memory Management <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [patch 11/14] remap_file_pages protection support: pte_present should not trigger on PTE_FILE PROTNONE ptes
Date: Sat, 06 May 2006 20:03:38 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <445C747A.7080205@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200605030329.51034.blaisorblade@yahoo.it>

Blaisorblade wrote:
> On Tuesday 02 May 2006 05:53, Nick Piggin wrote:
> 
>>blaisorblade@yahoo.it wrote:
>>
>>>From: Paolo 'Blaisorblade' Giarrusso <blaisorblade@yahoo.it>
>>>
>>>pte_present(pte) implies that pte_pfn(pte) is valid. Normally even with a
>>>_PAGE_PROTNONE pte this holds, but not when such a PTE is installed by
>>>the new install_file_pte; previously it didn't store protections, only
>>>file offsets, with the patches it also stores protections, and can set
>>>_PAGE_PROTNONE|_PAGE_FILE.
> 
> 
> What could be done is to set a PTE with "no protection", use another bit 
> rather than _PAGE_PROTNONE. This wastes one more bit but doable.

I see.

> 
> 
>>Why is this combination useful? Can't you just drop the _PAGE_FILE from
>>_PAGE_PROTNONE ptes?
> 
> 
> I must think on this, but the semantics are not entirely the same between the 
> two cases.

And yes, this won't work. I was misunderstanding what was happening.

I guess your problem is that you're overloading the pte protection bits
for present ptes as protection bits for not present (file) ptes. I'd rather
you just used a different encoding for file pte protections then.

"Wasting" a bit seems much more preferable for this very uncommon case (for
most people) rather than bloating pte_present check, which is called in
practically every performance critical inner loop).

That said, if the patch is i386/uml specific then I don't have much say in
it. If Ingo/Linus and Jeff/Yourself, respectively, accept the patch, then
fine.

But I think you should drop the comment from the core code. It seems wrong.

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  reply	other threads:[~2006-05-06 10:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-04-30 17:29 [patch 00/14] remap_file_pages protection support blaisorblade
2006-04-30 17:29 ` [patch 01/14] Fix comment about remap_file_pages blaisorblade
2006-04-30 17:29 ` [patch 02/14] remap_file_pages protection support: add needed macros blaisorblade
2006-04-30 17:29 ` [patch 03/14] remap_file_pages protection support: handle MANYPROTS VMAs blaisorblade
2006-04-30 17:29 ` [patch 04/14] remap_file_pages protection support: disallow mprotect() on manyprots mappings blaisorblade
2006-04-30 17:29 ` [patch 05/14] remap_file_pages protection support: cleanup syscall checks blaisorblade
2006-04-30 17:29 ` [patch 06/14] remap_file_pages protection support: enhance syscall interface blaisorblade
2006-04-30 17:30 ` [patch 07/14] remap_file_pages protection support: support private vma for MAP_POPULATE blaisorblade
2006-04-30 17:30 ` [patch 08/14] remap_file_pages protection support: use FAULT_SIGSEGV for protection checking blaisorblade
2006-04-30 17:30 ` [patch 09/14] remap_file_pages protection support: fix race condition with concurrent faults on same address space blaisorblade
2006-04-30 17:30 ` [patch 10/14] remap_file_pages protection support: fix get_user_pages() on VM_MANYPROTS vmas blaisorblade
2006-04-30 17:30 ` [patch 11/14] remap_file_pages protection support: pte_present should not trigger on PTE_FILE PROTNONE ptes blaisorblade
2006-05-02  3:53   ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-02  3:53     ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-03  1:29     ` Blaisorblade
2006-05-03  1:29       ` Blaisorblade
2006-05-06 10:03       ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2006-05-06 10:03         ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-07 17:50         ` Blaisorblade
2006-05-07 17:50           ` Blaisorblade
2006-04-30 17:30 ` [patch 12/14] remap_file_pages protection support: also set VM_NONLINEAR on nonuniform VMAs blaisorblade
2006-04-30 17:30 ` [patch 13/14] remap_file_pages protection support: uml, i386, x64 bits blaisorblade
2006-04-30 17:30 ` [patch 14/14] remap_file_pages protection support: adapt to uml peculiarities blaisorblade
2006-05-02  3:45 ` [patch 00/14] remap_file_pages protection support Nick Piggin
2006-05-02  3:45   ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-02  3:56   ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-02  3:56     ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-02 11:24     ` Ingo Molnar
2006-05-02 11:24       ` Ingo Molnar
2006-05-02 12:19       ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-02 12:19         ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-02 17:16   ` Lee Schermerhorn
2006-05-02 17:16     ` Lee Schermerhorn
2006-05-03  1:20     ` Blaisorblade
2006-05-03  1:20       ` Blaisorblade
2006-05-03 14:35       ` Lee Schermerhorn
2006-05-03 14:35         ` Lee Schermerhorn
2006-05-03  0:25   ` Blaisorblade
2006-05-03  0:25     ` Blaisorblade
2006-05-06 16:05     ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-05-07  4:22       ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-07  4:22         ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-13 14:13         ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-13 18:19           ` Valerie Henson
2006-05-13 18:19             ` Valerie Henson
2006-05-13 22:54             ` Valerie Henson
2006-05-13 22:54               ` Valerie Henson
2006-05-16 13:30             ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-16 13:30               ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-16 13:51               ` Andreas Mohr
2006-05-16 13:51                 ` Andreas Mohr
2006-05-16 16:31                 ` Valerie Henson
2006-05-16 16:31                   ` Valerie Henson
2006-05-16 16:47                   ` Andreas Mohr
2006-05-16 16:47                     ` Andreas Mohr
2006-05-17  3:25                     ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-17  3:25                       ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-17  6:10                     ` Blaisorblade
2006-05-17  6:10                       ` Blaisorblade
2006-05-16 16:33               ` Valerie Henson
2006-05-16 16:33                 ` Valerie Henson
2006-05-03  0:44   ` Blaisorblade
2006-05-03  0:44     ` Blaisorblade
2006-05-06  9:06     ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-06  9:06       ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-06 15:26       ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-05-02 10:21 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-05-02 23:46   ` Valerie Henson
2006-05-03  0:26   ` Blaisorblade
2006-05-03  1:44     ` Ulrich Drepper

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