From: Linda Knippers <linda.knippers@hp.com>
To: Klaus Weidner <klaus@atsec.com>
Cc: linux-audit@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] IPC_SET_PERM cleanup
Date: Tue, 09 May 2006 16:46:30 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4460FFA6.4070506@hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060509203608.GF31457@w-m-p.com>
Klaus Weidner wrote:
> On Tue, May 09, 2006 at 03:10:14PM -0500, Klaus Weidner wrote:
>
>>On Tue, May 09, 2006 at 03:11:25PM -0400, Steve Grubb wrote:
>>
>>>Bottom line, for the search API, I want all similar types to have a common
>>>field name. They can have a modifier adjacent to them.
>>
>>If that's the way you want to do it, there needs to be a way to get the
>>modifier to disambiguate them.
>>
>>Is adding "new " modifiers the best way to do that? You could also
>>keep the field names the same and look at the syscall record type to find
>>out which context they get used in.
>
>
> A bit more detail...
>
> Here are the current audit records:
>
> type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1146691872.791:94): arch=c000003e syscall=66 success=yes exit=0 a0=10000 a1=1 a2=1 a3=7fff328a7e70 items=0 pid=4327 auid=500 uid=0 gid=0 euid=0 suid=0 fsuid=0 egid=0 sgid=0 fsgid=0 tty=pts2 comm="syscalls" exe="/usr/local/eal3_testing/audit-test/syscalls/syscalls" subj=user_u:system_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c255
>
> type=IPC_SET_PERM msg=audit(1146691872.791:94): new qbytes=0 new iuid=501 new igid=0 new mode=0 obj=user_u:system_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c255
>
> type=IPC msg=audit(1146691872.791:94): qbytes=5a5a5a5a5a5a5a5a iuid=0 igid=0 mode=1c0 obj=user_u:system_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c255
>
>
> The original patches by Dustin and Linda had used "new_iuid=501" to
> differentiate the values, which I personally think was fine since it's
> unlikely that people want to be searching for those.
And if they do, they're easy to find with an ausearch | grep.
I think Dustin and I were both trying to be consistent with the 99% of
the audit records emitted by the kernel that use single word keywords.
I also think Loulwa had a good suggestion when we suggested modifying
some of the user space audit records to also use single word keywords.
I can understand not wanting to create a bunch of new, random keywords
and I think for the kernel, we do that be reviewing new audit records
to make sure that they only contain the necessary information and re-use
existing keywords where it makes sense. That's why I removed obj from
the IPC_SET_PERMS record and qbytes from the IPC record. I guess for
qbytes that means that I can use qbytes instead of new_qbytes since
the IPC_SET_PERMS record is the only place where it shows up.
That's a change I'm happy to make. :-)
> If you absolutely want to avoid adding new tag names, an alternative
> would be to get rid of the "new " modifiers, and use the "type=" name to
> differentiate them. The audit parsing library could then provide an
> auparse_get_field_type() function so that the clients that care can treat
> "IPC_SET_PERM" differently from type "IPC".
>
> Something like:
>
> while (ausearch_next_event(au)) {
> if (auparse_find_field(au, "ouid")
> && !strcmp(auparse_get_field_type(au), "IPC"))
> {
> printf("ouid=%s\n", auparse_interpret_field(au));
> }
> }
>
> I still think that the new_* field names are fine and don't need fixing,
> but the "new" modifiers just look wrong.
I agree. I would also like something that's easy to parse for people
not using the search API. Our test suite doesn't use the search API
and probably never will until there's a binary record format.
-- ljk
>
> -Klaus
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-05-09 20:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-05-05 20:19 [PATCH] IPC_SET_PERM cleanup Linda Knippers
2006-05-05 20:42 ` Steve Grubb
2006-05-05 20:59 ` Linda Knippers
2006-05-09 14:51 ` Klaus Weidner
2006-05-05 21:26 ` Linda Knippers
2006-05-08 18:29 ` Dustin Kirkland
2006-05-08 18:29 ` Dustin Kirkland
2006-05-08 19:06 ` Linda Knippers
2006-05-09 14:59 ` Klaus Weidner
2006-05-09 15:05 ` Steve Grubb
2006-05-09 15:12 ` Linda Knippers
2006-05-09 15:21 ` Steve Grubb
2006-05-09 15:34 ` Linda Knippers
2006-05-09 15:55 ` Steve Grubb
2006-05-09 16:33 ` Klaus Weidner
2006-05-09 17:47 ` Linda Knippers
2006-05-09 18:15 ` Klaus Weidner
2006-05-09 18:27 ` Linda Knippers
2006-05-09 19:11 ` Steve Grubb
2006-05-09 20:10 ` Klaus Weidner
2006-05-09 20:36 ` Klaus Weidner
2006-05-09 20:46 ` Linda Knippers [this message]
2006-05-10 14:02 ` Steve Grubb
2006-05-10 16:29 ` Klaus Weidner
2006-05-10 17:02 ` Dustin Kirkland
2006-05-10 17:11 ` Klaus Weidner
2006-05-10 17:22 ` Linda Knippers
2006-05-10 17:29 ` Steve Grubb
2006-05-10 18:10 ` Klaus Weidner
2006-05-10 17:28 ` Steve Grubb
2006-05-10 18:05 ` Linda Knippers
2006-05-10 18:20 ` Steve Grubb
2006-05-09 15:53 ` Amy Griffis
2006-05-09 15:07 ` Steve Grubb
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