From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1Fj6aV-00084Z-7r for mharc-grub-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 24 May 2006 23:32:39 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Fj6aT-00084L-R0 for grub-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 24 May 2006 23:32:37 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Fj6aT-000842-5S for grub-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 24 May 2006 23:32:37 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Fj6aT-00083w-04 for grub-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 24 May 2006 23:32:37 -0400 Received: from [66.160.141.149] (helo=luna) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Fj6f2-0000Xo-TY for grub-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 24 May 2006 23:37:21 -0400 Received: from p4 (Kingston-HSE-ppp3563402.sympatico.ca [65.93.95.45]) by luna (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF8B0C7A21 for ; Wed, 24 May 2006 23:32:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <002901c67fab$ddb416a0$da01a8c0@p4> From: "John S." To: Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 23:32:34 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0026_01C67F8A.558DD250" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: GUI Work X-BeenThere: grub-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: The development of GRUB 2 List-Id: The development of GRUB 2 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 03:32:38 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01C67F8A.558DD250 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am interested in getting involved with GRUB and was wondering what = work has been done on implementing a GUI for GRUB 2. If anyone is working on it right now, could you please let me know how I = can help. Thanks, John S. ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01C67F8A.558DD250 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I am interested in getting involved with GRUB and was = wondering what=20 work has been done on implementing a GUI for GRUB 2.

If anyone is working on it right now, could you please let me know = how I=20 can help.

Thanks,
John S.

------=_NextPart_000_0026_01C67F8A.558DD250-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1FjCCD-0003iB-Id for mharc-grub-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 25 May 2006 05:31:57 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FjCCB-0003hw-Ca for grub-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 25 May 2006 05:31:55 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FjCCA-0003hg-3y for grub-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 25 May 2006 05:31:55 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FjCC9-0003hd-Vs for grub-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 25 May 2006 05:31:54 -0400 Received: from [157.24.2.30] (helo=smtp1.cc.lut.fi) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FjCGn-0007Nw-C6 for grub-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 25 May 2006 05:36:41 -0400 Received: from localhost (smtp1 [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1.cc.lut.fi (Postfix) with ESMTP id C256E70198 for ; Thu, 25 May 2006 12:31:52 +0300 (EEST) Received: from smtp1.cc.lut.fi ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp1.cc.lut.fi [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21323-03 for ; Thu, 25 May 2006 12:31:52 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (lk4-a-4-1.lnet.lut.fi [157.24.102.107]) by smtp1.cc.lut.fi (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54D6F7015E for ; Thu, 25 May 2006 12:31:51 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <4475798D.4040407@nic.fi> Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 12:31:57 +0300 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Vesa_J=E4=E4skel=E4inen?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (Windows/20060308) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: The development of GRUB 2 References: <002901c67fab$ddb416a0$da01a8c0@p4> In-Reply-To: <002901c67fab$ddb416a0$da01a8c0@p4> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Virus-Scanned: by lut.fi Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: GUI Work X-BeenThere: grub-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: The development of GRUB 2 List-Id: The development of GRUB 2 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 09:31:56 -0000 John S. wrote: > I am interested in getting involved with GRUB and was wondering what > work has been done on implementing a GUI for GRUB 2. > If anyone is working on it right now, could you please let me know how = I > can help. Hi, I have been doing preparations for it by introducing Video API to GRUB 2 (http://grub.enbug.org/VideoSubsystem). It is still being fine tuned, but basic design of the GUI could be started by now. If you search archives from this mailing list you can notice some messages about it. Here are some links that you should check out: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/grub-devel/2006-04/msg00056.html http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/grub-devel/2006-05/msg00008.html Thanks, Vesa J=E4=E4skel=E4inen From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1FjQHw-0004QA-G6 for mharc-grub-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 25 May 2006 20:34:48 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FjQHu-0004Ne-PJ for grub-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 25 May 2006 20:34:46 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FjQHs-0004N6-8t for grub-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 25 May 2006 20:34:45 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FjQHs-0004N3-41 for grub-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 25 May 2006 20:34:44 -0400 Received: from [66.160.141.149] (helo=luna) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FjQMe-0005ta-7u for grub-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 25 May 2006 20:39:40 -0400 Received: from [141.117.174.128] (unknown [141.117.174.128]) by luna (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7555C7A21 for ; Thu, 25 May 2006 20:34:39 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) In-Reply-To: <4475798D.4040407@nic.fi> References: <002901c67fab$ddb416a0$da01a8c0@p4> <4475798D.4040407@nic.fi> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <31A7CB00-4E1A-485D-922A-606650A8F410@rockymedia.ca> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "John S." Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 20:34:38 -0400 To: The development of GRUB 2 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) Subject: Re: GUI Work X-BeenThere: grub-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: The development of GRUB 2 List-Id: The development of GRUB 2 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 00:34:47 -0000 I'm trying to get myself started in all of this, but I have a ton of =20 questions. You'll have to forgive me if they are obvious, but this =20 is my first time looking at the grub source. Also I have never written code this low-level (on a PC) before. My =20 most relevant experience would probably be writing some ms-dos games, =20= which is similar but I'm assuming theres a ton of differences. So =20 please forgive me if I don't know all of the concepts yet. So here are the questions: How much of the video API has been written? What exactly does the file vbe.c do? I'm assuming it implements a =20 VESA BIOS Extension interface that we can use when writing the API =20 functions. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Also how much work is =20 required on this set of code? If the API has already been started which file is it in? if it has =20 not, which file should be created for it? how about /video/i386/pc/=20 api.c ? A ton of questions I know, but I'm a fast learner and should be =20 caught up soon enough. On 25-May-06, at 5:31 AM, Vesa J=E4=E4skel=E4inen wrote: > John S. wrote: >> I am interested in getting involved with GRUB and was wondering what >> work has been done on implementing a GUI for GRUB 2. >> If anyone is working on it right now, could you please let me know =20= >> how I >> can help. > > Hi, > > I have been doing preparations for it by introducing Video API to =20 > GRUB 2 > (http://grub.enbug.org/VideoSubsystem). It is still being fine tuned, > but basic design of the GUI could be started by now. > > If you search archives from this mailing list you can notice some > messages about it. Here are some links that you should check out: > > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/grub-devel/2006-04/msg00056.html > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/grub-devel/2006-05/msg00008.html > > Thanks, > Vesa J=E4=E4skel=E4inen > > > _______________________________________________ > Grub-devel mailing list > Grub-devel@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/grub-devel From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1Fje8S-0003KD-JX for mharc-grub-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 26 May 2006 11:21:56 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Fje8Q-0003K0-Ph for grub-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 26 May 2006 11:21:54 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Fje8P-0003Jk-FZ for grub-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 26 May 2006 11:21:54 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Fje8P-0003Jh-6d for grub-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 26 May 2006 11:21:53 -0400 Received: from [157.24.2.30] (helo=smtp1.cc.lut.fi) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FjeDJ-0003vM-Q2 for grub-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 26 May 2006 11:26:58 -0400 Received: from localhost (smtp1 [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1.cc.lut.fi (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAF12702EF for ; Fri, 26 May 2006 18:21:49 +0300 (EEST) Received: from smtp1.cc.lut.fi ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp1.cc.lut.fi [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12068-09 for ; Fri, 26 May 2006 18:21:49 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (lk4-a-4-1.lnet.lut.fi [157.24.102.107]) by smtp1.cc.lut.fi (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6299B70277 for ; Fri, 26 May 2006 18:21:48 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <44771D14.5050608@nic.fi> Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 18:21:56 +0300 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Vesa_J=E4=E4skel=E4inen?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (Windows/20060308) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: The development of GRUB 2 References: <002901c67fab$ddb416a0$da01a8c0@p4> <4475798D.4040407@nic.fi> <31A7CB00-4E1A-485D-922A-606650A8F410@rockymedia.ca> In-Reply-To: <31A7CB00-4E1A-485D-922A-606650A8F410@rockymedia.ca> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Virus-Scanned: by lut.fi Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: GUI Work X-BeenThere: grub-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: The development of GRUB 2 List-Id: The development of GRUB 2 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 15:21:55 -0000 John S. wrote: > I'm trying to get myself started in all of this, but I have a ton of > questions. You'll have to forgive me if they are obvious, but this is > my first time looking at the grub source. >=20 > Also I have never written code this low-level (on a PC) before. My mos= t > relevant experience would probably be writing some ms-dos games, which > is similar but I'm assuming theres a ton of differences. So please > forgive me if I don't know all of the concepts yet. You don't actually have to care too much about low-level details. What is required is to write "high-level" GUI using low-level systems provided= . > So here are the questions: >=20 > How much of the video API has been written? Bitmap support is missing from CVS, but otherwise most of the functionality should work. There might be some changes, but I have to think more on some issues raised on this list. > What exactly does the file vbe.c do? I'm assuming it implements a VESA > BIOS Extension interface that we can use when writing the API > functions. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Also how much work is > required on this set of code? vbe.c implements VESA Bios Extension 2.0+ driver for GRUB Video Subsystem. You are not supposed to use this driver directly. Use Video API instead. It abstracts used video driver, so we can use same GUI code on all supported platforms. > If the API has already been started which file is it in? if it has not= , > which file should be created for it? how about /video/i386/pc/api.c ? See video/video.c. There is also term/videoterm.c and commands/videotest.c that exercises Video API. Thanks, Vesa J=E4=E4skel=E4inen